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  1. #1
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    Calmotion USB wont run whole program

    I need some help guys. My new to me 1988 Fadal 4020 has been a work in progress. But I can run a short program from the Calmotion USB but not larger programs.
    At first I thought it was my Fusion 360 putting out strange code but I had a professional check it out and he said the code was good.

    So basicaly it will stop short then jump back to the beginning of the program and start from the beginning.

    Any ideas ?
    Baud rate is set correct -9600

    CD,8 (enter)
    DNC, 1008.txt+

    Is how I get the controler to read it.

    Looking for suggestions.

    Calmotion USB was baught new Oct 2020

    Thanks!

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    Re: Calmotion USB wont run whole program

    ...some things are not allowed in Programs when running DNC. Like no SubProgram calls or Looping maybe causing the problem.

    Read more Chapter 14.2.4 (page 342)
    https://fadalparts.net/content/Fadal...r%20Manual.pdf

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    Re: Calmotion USB wont run whole program

    MachineHop5,
    Thanks for the reply . I made sure I didn't have any sub routines or Looping - I understand they will confuse it.

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    Re: Calmotion USB wont run whole program

    Quote Originally Posted by AirChunk View Post
    MachineHop5,
    Thanks for the reply . I made sure I didn't have any sub routines or Looping - I understand they will confuse it.
    Post you program just cut and paste the area where there seems to be a problem
    Mactec54

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    Re: Calmotion USB wont run whole program

    Its somewhere around line 2800.
    Its part of the engraving portion.
    Thanks!

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    Re: Calmotion USB wont run whole program

    Quote Originally Posted by AirChunk View Post
    Its somewhere around line 2800.
    Its part of the engraving portion.
    Thanks!

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    It might have lost it's Feed rate, should not have, the program looks ok, so you could try by adding some feed rates in that area

    Or the program may be to long for the control to run it, if so you may have to break up the program
    Mactec54

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    Re: Calmotion USB wont run whole program

    ...If your machine has DNCX try using that command. If not, I would suspect the cable between the Calmo and the RS232 plug. First check the grounding lug on the RS232 plug to Cabinet by removing it and scraping the paint off so there is no questions about good grounding. Also try/check in the parameters (SETP) for Buffering that it is set max 255.
    good luck

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    Re: Calmotion USB wont run whole program

    Thanks man . After talking to Calmotion today they wanted the whole unit I bought from them back . They helped me do some troubleshooting and they think the firmware in the Calmotion black box was corrupted. So I sent it back to them to be fixed .
    Ill report back after it returns to see if it works properly.

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    Re: Calmotion USB wont run whole program

    Quote Originally Posted by AirChunk View Post
    Thanks man . After talking to Calmotion today they wanted the whole unit I bought from them back . They helped me do some troubleshooting and they think the firmware in the Calmotion black box was corrupted. So I sent it back to them to be fixed .
    ...would have been nice if, they just send you a new unit... or better yet personally showed up to fix it. we wish

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    Re: Calmotion USB wont run whole program

    Machinehop5,
    Yeah it would of been really good if they would of just exchanged it for a good one.
    The lady out there said it would only be a couple of days to fix it. But Now I am at the 2 week mark since they recieved it and I am still waiting .
    Grrrrrrr

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    I have the calmotion and I have not had problems. I recommend it. I generate codes with mastercam. I think you should use the .nc extension it would look like this. cd, 8 dnc.1000.nc + the program should start like this. or 1000;

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