[xtesla26]

Hi everyone!!!

I am a newbie who wants to buy his first CNC Router for his workshop, and asking you more experienced people for some help for this small big step.

[apologize in advance for my not very fluent English]

Why do I want to buy a CNC?
I have a craft store about gypsum and I have decided that I want to expand my business, I want to start selling machined drywall sheets, and to do that I need a CNC.

What characteristics do I think a CNC suitable for this purpose should have?
Actually, I don't think I need an overly sophisticated CNC, the requirements I set for myself are:
- a work area of at least 3000x1200mm,I need it to have at least this size so that I can process even the largest sheets.
- an automatic tool-changing system (ATC), as I think I need to do few cuts per sheet but with different tips and without an ATC I would risk spending more time changing tools than working the sheets, but I could also sacrifice this point to be within budget.
- a good vacuum system, having to later glue the sheets, excessive dust would not allow good glue adhesion, also the drywall when cut produces a lot of dust being made up largely of gypsum.
- dust guards on all the axes, because of the fine dust that can be generated
- a liquid cooling system because of the dust? (perhaps not so necessary).
- an accuracy of less than a millimeter on all axes, this I believe is a requirement met by almost all the cnc's on the market
- the table with a vacuum pump, as I believe it can speed up the preparation for machining each sheet
- the total power of the machinery must not exceed 8kw in single phase, this is because my workshop is not provided with a three-phase system and to install it would cost me thousands of euros

What is my budget?
This is perhaps the critical point, my budget is not high, more because I don't know if there will be enough demand on this new side of the business, I want to take a risk but not too much, I don't want to spend money that I will recover in too many years, so I am thinking of a budget of 7000/10000€ (not considering the other expenses of the lab to install the machinery)

So far so good, my doubts start however when I try to look into the matter, how do I know if the company I want to trust is reliable, I have read some posts around the web and read some suggestions, but besides looking at how many years the company has been on Alibaba, looking only at verified sellers, checking reviews (without relying too much on them), checking certificates and verifying that they are manufacturers and not just resellers I have not found much else, which might be enough, but gives me very little certainty.

Also ,how can I tell if the CNC they try to sell me is of good quality? Also on the web I have found some advice, including requesting various videos of precision tests, requesting details of the various components, such as model and brand and try to get good quality components, and requesting photos and videos of the electrical wiring.
Unfortunately, I do not always get answers to this questions, sometimes I get vague answers and sometimes my questions are ignored, if I try to ask if they have customers or agents in Italy, often the answer is no or they answer me with an excuse (in my opinion), such as:we have customers in Italy but we cannot give our customers' contact details away, which might also be true, however I am also sure that many customers would be happy to give help and suggestions,and that could only work to their advantage if these people are happy with their products.

All this leads me to have a lot of doubts, for me this is a big investment and I don't want to waste it by buying a product of bad quality, I know I'm going to have to settle for it anyway becouse of my budget, but I don't want to spend all that money on an unusable machine.

Currently I'm aimed to buy from a seller found on Alibaba, this has been on Alibaba for 13 years, good reviews (for what it can count), answers many of my doubts although not all, sometimes they are a bit evasive,but from the way they talk, send quotes, photos and videos they seem reliable.
(if you want I'll share the name of the company)

I would like to know though from those who have more experience than me if you have Chinese sellers to recommend, or just to share feedback on, and if you have any useful tips in general for buying my first CNC

[allencncrouter]

From the perspective of 220V1 voltage,
the popular one in the market is 2.2KW single-phase vacuum pump, and the vacuum area of ??1200*3000MM requires about two.
XYZ servo motor, if the Reisai servo is 750W, 4 0.75*4=3KW
spindle power
dust collector 2.2KW,
the total machine power is likely to exceed 8KW.


If you want to control the total power,
it is recommended to choose an aluminum profile table to reduce the power of the vacuum pump, reduce the noise of the vacuum pump, and control the budget.

From the perspective of dust removal
It is recommended to choose this pulse cleaning, high density, dust filtering.

The green dust collector that is usually equipped with an engraving machine does not have a filter and is mainly aimed at wood chips. It is low in cost, but it cannot achieve the effect you require.

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High efficient 2200w 220v1 dust collector
https://youtube.com/shorts/xWJWG1ER-y4
1325 atc cnc router with 2200w pulse clean Dust collector feedback
https://youtu.be/vmeGl8tb8-U

[allencncrouter]

About a liquid cooling system?
Type1, spindle have air cooling and water cooling type , as a lot of dust in your workshop , suggest choose water cooling spindle , if you choose air cooling fans ,dust maybe fall into spindle inside .
Water pump using for watercooling spindle cnc router
http://youtu.be/x89OazeA9zY

Type 2 , when cnc process stone ,it need water cooling for tool . check video link as bellows:

https://youtu.be/DHvYPfnm3mo
https://youtu.be/d-w4ZfW94Ck

[allencncrouter]

Cnc Feedback
Different country customer
Europe
[IMG]file:///C:/Users/ADMINI~1/AppData/Local/Temp/ksohtml7684/wps1.png[/IMG]UK Cnc stone
https://youtu.be/gFWiVLK3lR8
Belgium 1530 plasma cutter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKiB...iCmtn&index=20
Israel 1325 cnc since 2015 year
https://youtu.be/Yxs1q975qdo
https://youtu.be/qMY8U-y89u8
Serbia 2030 cnc router
https://youtu.be/CoyNCaPGjM8
Lithuania 0615 cnc router
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4GEYQzSuqg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wbI...3lJzJJyOR82nHA
Spain 1560 ATC
How to produce port defenses by Cnc Router
https://youtu.be/AuypDZNjFbY
American
USA 1325 ATC cnc
https://youtu.be/PtWW73_3SuU

[allencncrouter]

If dont mind ,send a message to my whatsapp +8618560201508 or [email protected] I can send some solution and share some Europe end user if you want .

[awerby]

I've never heard of machined drywall sheets. Are you just cutting them out into shapes, or putting designs on them? I wonder how well it would work, considering that the paper on top is likely to wrap itself around the cutter and clog it. Have you considered using a drag knife instead of a router bit or endmill? That would just score the material instead of removing it, but it would make a lot less dust.

[allencncrouter]

Digital knife cnc is also a good idea .

Oscillating knife blades have great advantages in cutting softer materials. When cutting harder materials, the tool consumption is relatively high, and once it is not sharp, it will affect the cutting effect.

[allencncrouter]

PTFE gasket with EOT 250w cutting head
https://youtu.be/VsJCSQlhSb0
PTFE gasket with EOT 400w cutting head
https://youtu.be/bqYBlnKY86k

[Nicolas_Munger]

Hey! When evaluating Chinese companies to buy your CNC from, there's a handy website you can use:
https://www.cnverify.com/search?kw=cnc-machine.
It's free and allows you to check crucial details like company shareholders, registration time, and registered capital.
This way, you can dig deeper into a company's background and reliability, helping you make a more informed decision. Hope this helps with your purchase!