Improving suction on a vacuum table
I have a 5'x12' vacuum table for my CNC router that I generally keep topped with a 4'x8' spoilboard for sheet cutting. I am cutting some 2" wide rails and have been playing with the table to try to get better suction so these pieces don't move. I have made changes that I think have helped, but it's hard to verify if one change made the difference or another so I thought I would ask for advice here.
First, while I understand that suction applied to a piece is a function of the vacuum power and the surface area of the piece, is there a correlation with the size of my spoilboard and the suction? The way I have it figured, I will get twice as much suction from a 2'x8' spoilboard as I would from a 4'x8' spoilboard because there is [roughly] half as much surface area for the air to pull through. Is this accurate? The guys upstairs are telling me that the table has the same suction whether I have a 1'x1' spoilboard or a 5'x12' spoilboard and I just can't see this being true.
Second, if I were to drill a 10mm hole through my spoilboard directly under where a narrow piece will be cut, will this create a localized increase of vacuum suction at that one spot and help hold the narrow piece in place? My thought is that the hole will provide less resistance than the MDF spoilboard and will create an increased point of suction directly beneath the narrow piece I wish to keep in place while also maintaining the same diffuse suction throughout the board and across the face of the piece. Or does it make no difference because the contact surface area of the narrow piece remains the same?
I would really like to have more control over my vacuum table so any help or advice anyone can provide will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Parker
Vacuum Hold Down Improvements
Parker,
I've found the following of hepl to improve overall hold down on my 4x8 spoilboard.
1) I use 1/2" MDF vs. 3/4" to reduce the resistance through the material
2) I epoxy coat all edges with 2 coats of expoxy paint to create a airtight seal that wont pull off during production
3) I surface both sides of the MDF spoilboard to remove the was film which increases the vacuum transfer.
4) For a piece 80 sq. inches or smaller, I perimeter rout in 2 passes with the last pass less than a 1/16" (preferrably 1/32") remaining for the final pass to cut the piece free without applying any x/y pressure on the part.
I also do believe that the further your part is away from the vacuum port in the table, the less draw it has. I Say this because it it typically the small parts at the perimeter edge of the sheet that ever cause a problem.
Hope this helps a bit.
Regards,
Scott Hill
fromscott2finish
Re: Improving suction on a vacuum table
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dlwoodworks
I'm a newbie on this forum but contribute a lot to the ShopBot forum. My CNC is a 96x60 ShopBot PRS Alpha with 2.2hp spindle and air drill.
For the spoil board I use 1/2" Trupan (LDF). My table is divided into four zones with each zone having its own 220Vac vacuum motor.
Each zone has its own spoil board which has melamine edgebanding on all four sides and then glued down to the plenum. I can surface the spoil board right down to the plenum and then replace it with four new spoil boards.
My shop is at about 2500' altitude and I'm able to pull more then 7.5 inHg. I've been very pleased with the hold down capability.
Very cool. I'm looking at something exactly like this. which motors are these? Link?
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FS2F
2) I epoxy coat all edges with 2 coats of expoxy paint to create a airtight seal that wont pull off during production
Hi Scott,
Thank you for the list. I found it very informative. Similar to our process for prepping a new spoil board. The one thing that I have been having difficulty with is finding an effective and easy to apply substance for the edges of the MDF to reduce or negate vacuum leakage out the side of the MDF. we have been using surf board wax. A pain to apply and I don't think it covers the pores very effectively. I'd like to try your method of applying epoxy paint to the edges. Would you mind expounding on that process? for instance, what kind of epoxy paint do you use, how do you apply it? That sort of thing. I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks.
Re: Improving suction on a vacuum table
Hi Cormack - Epoxy is expensive for sealing purposes, white glue will do just as well. I'd do two or three coats on edges just smear it on with your finger....Peter
Re: Improving suction on a vacuum table
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peteeng
Hi Cormack - Epoxy is expensive for sealing purposes, white glue will do just as well. I'd do two or three coats on edges just smear it on with your finger....Peter
Excellent point and great suggestion! Thanks Peter.