Anyone use MC Mill/Turn?

Getting a new lathe by the end of the month with YC and a Subspindle. I currently use Bobcad for both my CAD and CAM both mill and lathe. Bobcad has a Mill/Turn upgrade option and that would be the most economical way for me to go and easiest to learn since I am used to the software already. But, also wondering if I should step up to MC while I have the chance.

Just curious what the opinions are of MC users that have already been using it. Love it/hate it? Worth the money? Worth the extra learning curve to learn new software?

Thanks, Ryan

Takes a lot of getting used to, but then I don't have experience with any others. The sub hand off gets screwed up to often, and alot of other glitches. In my opinion Mastercam hasn't spent a lot of energy on the lathe side in 10 years.

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A little disappointment in MC, They do not have a real machine simulation for the lathe stuff. Kind of a big selling point to someone like me thats new to multi axis lathe and can fully see my exact machine during a simulation. I want to make sure another tool in the turret doesn't interfere, stick out too far and run into the machine wall, see the part passed off to the sub, etc. Pretty much everyone else, including lowly BobCad, has this now days. For 15k in software I would expect them to have all the bells and whistles.

This is an old post but the MT product has move by leaps and bounds. there is a machine simulation with every >machine post.stock transfer to sub or POCO are dialed in. Something to look if you are using a MT machine.

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Originally Posted by cadcam

This is an old post but the MT product has move by leaps and bounds. there is a machine simulation with every >machine post.stock transfer to sub or POCO are dialed in. Something to look if you are using a MT machine.

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Mastercam doesn't do millturn for single turret machines.

A standard postability post would work. I had a post here with the pictured plane combos i finally learned after 3.5 years, but it got deleted.

I would ask the reseller if they have a known 100% post for a machine with the same combo and if they could make a part with the 4 mill combos and post and file compare as a service included with your purchase.

You want your post to work, you need the plane combo knowledge and the verification that its right so you're starting in a good position to learn it.

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Originally Posted by Beansdiesel

A little disappointment in MC, They do not have a real machine simulation for the lathe stuff. Kind of a big selling point to someone like me thats new to multi axis lathe and can fully see my exact machine during a simulation. I want to make sure another tool in the turret doesn't interfere, stick out too far and run into the machine wall, see the part passed off to the sub, etc. Pretty much everyone else, including lowly BobCad, has this now days. For 15k in software I would expect them to have all the bells and whistles.

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If you have time to settup simulation though you're not going to be making money unless you fly through that. I have mill turn and I dont use simulation for that reason. I could make parts or play around with loading and setting up a virtual machine. We get paid to make parts.

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Originally Posted by cadcam

This is an old post but the MT product has move by leaps and bounds. there is a machine simulation with every >machine post.stock transfer to sub or POCO are dialed in. Something to look if you are using a MT machine.

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Pocos in lathe take me about 2 hours to post and fix, and they dont post right.

The pro guys would put in a manual entry, drop that in, and edit the pick, pull, and cutoff code to suit the new part.

Then they would post a "transfer" that takes maybe 10 minutes to get lathe stock to move. The transfer only gets annoying if you are working a family, trying to get the transferred g55 to be relative to all the other parts.

Manual entries top for barloader, bottom for part eject, and if you do that with all good reference point moves, you could probably post code that could run, granted, load monitors and tool life are extra manual work in a backplotter like cimco.

I've since learned that manual entries don't allow enough characters for a full POCO. I think they are limited to 650, so you have to save a text file and that removes your ability to manipulate pick and pull values in the manual entry. It's so often that Mastercam manages to make it complicated to resolve the software hurdles. It's too bad, that manual entry could have been a pretty clean resolution.