Re: First Build. Few Q's.
For primarily cutting metal bar stock the rigidity of a milling machine is hard to beat. Aluminium sheet goods different story if that's the goal.
With a 26" depth restriction a C frame mill wouldn't have much Y travel so that's one of the reasons a router may have more appeal.
Some of the heavy duty DIY router builds showing up here look a lot like bridge mills, the closer your router resembles one those builds the happier it will be cutting metal.
Of course what's possible in a build will depend on your access to tools, some of the posters here have workshops that resemble mini-factories.
Re: First Build. Few Q's.
Hi NetM - In regard to the structure which you have said little about it will need to be much stiffer then you thick. The Pro 2424 is probably stiffer then the Oltrogge and you will need to be stiffer the the Pro. Peter
Re: First Build. Few Q's.
Hi,
Clearpath servos are too expensive for what they are. They are good quality, no problems there but for the same money you can get either DMM (Canadian manufactured in China)
or Delta (Taiwanese manufactured in China) but twice the power and every bit as good quality wise. Also because they have a separate servo drive they have way WAY WAY
more control options and tuning aids.
Craig
Re: First Build. Few Q's.
Hi,
don't forget the spindle, it is, if buying quality, the MOST expensive part of the whole machine.
When I built my mini-mill I, like you, put the purchasing decision about the spindle off. It was a mistake because when it came time I had already blown my budget.
It must be said that the plethora of cheap Chinese spindles are good value and mostly they last OK, but if you want quality you'll have to look elsewhere and quality
spindles are eye-watering expensive. My favored German manufacturer has a 2.5kW (can be run on a single phase VFD) 42,000 rpm with HSK toolchange for a mere 5400 Euro!!!! That's just the spindle,
no VFD, no coolant pump, no air compressor for seal air or toolchange.
Craig
Re: First Build. Few Q's.
As Pete said, you don't have any information on the frame. This will have the biggest impact on the machines performance. The best components are only as good as the frame they're bolted to.
And neither of the machines you linked to are ideal solutions for precision aluminum milling.
And I'm with Craig on the Clearpaths. Clearpaths are great, as a drop in replacement for stepper motors. But if you are designing a new machine from scratch, AC servos will provide much better performance for the same or less money.
Re: First Build. Few Q's.
Like Ger said, the frame is your weak link. Both those designs you pointed us to were gantry routers, which work okay for wood, but less well for aluminum. A step up in rigidity would be a "bridge" design, where the Y axis travels on a fixed gantry and the table moves underneath it. This requires more room (maybe you can make the width of it 26" and give it more room on the sides) but since there's no constraint on the weight of the bridge, it can be made quite rigid. It still won't be as good for metal machining as a real mill, but will be better than the moving gantry plan.
Re: First Build. Few Q's.
Hi,
there is a company not far from where I work and they have a HUGE double column mill, the same design style that awerby is recommending.
I've never seen this machine operating but I would swear the X travel is 3m or more and Y travel has to be more than a meter. You can only see it by
looking through the windows in the walls that surround it, and the walls look like they could house a family of four!! The cast iron columns are about 600mm square,
I don't imagine they are solid but they sure look sturdy!!
A fixed gantry can be made to be very stiff. What is required then are long linear rails and a very stiff base to mount then for the X axis.
Craig