1 Attachment(s)
HY VFD - Error code E.oL.n
Hi Everyone, I have an error code coming up on my HY VFD....typical I cant find this error in the manual or online anywhere??
the code is "E.oL.n" and it stops the spindle when it comes up, I need to push the stop button to reset and then press start again.
I have double checked my wiring, gone through the settings on the VFD and they are all to the suppliers specification, its driving me nuts not having a reliable spindle, I'm hovering my finger over the pause button for the entire job just in case.
has anyone else experienced this? or have any clue to the meaning - I'm guessing "Electrical over load" or something?
thanks,
Adam
Re: HY VFD - Error code E.oL.n
Quote:
Originally Posted by
adamhobbs1986
Hi Everyone, I have an error code coming up on my HY VFD....typical I cant find this error in the manual or online anywhere??
the code is "E.oL.n" and it stops the spindle when it comes up, I need to push the stop button to reset and then press start again.
I have double checked my wiring, gone through the settings on the VFD and they are all to the suppliers specification, its driving me nuts not having a reliable spindle, I'm hovering my finger over the pause button for the entire job just in case.
has anyone else experienced this? or have any clue to the meaning - I'm guessing "Electrical over load" or something?
thanks,
Adam
The supplier most likely has the wrong setting for your setup
So what is the spindle motor spec's ???
What Parameters have you set ???
How have you wired the input power supply to the VFD Drive and what is the voltage of your main supply
Don't run it until we have figured it out or you could do some damage
1 Attachment(s)
Re: HY VFD - Error code E.oL.n
Thanks for the reply mactec54, and thanks for your help!
Motor spec is 1.5kw water cooled spindle - https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000...5d364c4dmk3hYv
I cant seem to find any decent spec document on the spindle other than what's listed on the aliexpress listing.
I'm in Australia so my voltage is 240v
I have also included a pic with diagram on how it is wired - please note, shielding on spindle cable is wired back to earth, and is connected on spindle end the the jacket of the plug only, but not wired into spindle.
Also you will see I have a 10A fuse wired in line with the active.
Took me awhile to get all the settings - I went through and wrote them all down, see below:
CODE VALUE
PD001 0
PD002 1
PD003 400
PD004 400
PD005 400
PD006 2.50
PD007 0.50
PD008 220
PD009 14.0
PD010 7.0
PD011 0
PD012 null
PD013 0
PD014 20.0
PD015 20.0
PD016 20.0
PD017 20.0
PD018 40.0
PD019 40.0
PD020 80.0
PD021 80.0
PD022 0
PD023 1
PD024 1
PD025 0
PD026 0
PD027 0.50
PD028 0.50
PD029 0.00
PD030 0.00
PD031 2.0
PD032 05.0
PD033 150
PD034 00.5
PD035 null
PD036 null
PD037 null
PD038 null
PD039 null
PD040 null
PD041 08
PD042 5.00
PD043 0.0
PD044 02
PD045 03
PD046 14
PD047 22
PD048 24
PD049 23
PD050 01
PD051 05
PD052 03
PD053 00
PD054 0
PD055 100
PD056 0.00
PD057 0.00
PD058 0.00
PD059 0.50
PD060 0.00
PD061 0.00
PD062 0.50
PD063 00.1
PD064 001
PD065 000
PD066 0
PD067 null
PD068 null
PD069 null
PD070 1
PD071 20
PD072 400.00
PD073 0.00
PD074 0
PD075 0
PD076 0
PD077 0
PD078 0
PD079 0.01
PD080 0
PD081 0
PD082 000
PD083 000
PD084 000
PD085 0
PD086 015.00
PD087 20.00
PD088 25.00
PD089 30.00
PD090 35.00
PD091 40.00
PD092 0.50
PD093 10.00
PD094 15.00
PD095 20.00
PD096 25.00
PD097 30.00
PD098 35.00
PD099 40.00
PD100 45.00
PD101 10.0
PD102 10.0
PD103 0.00
PD104 0.00
PD105 0.00
PD106 0.00
PD107 0.00
PD108 0.00
PD109 0.00
PD110 0.00
PD111 0.00
PD112 0.00
PD113 0.00
PD114 0.00
PD115 0.00
PD116 0.00
PD117 0.00
PD118 1
PD119 150
PD120 000
PD121 05.0
PD122 null
PD123 0
PD124 000
PD125 01.0
PD126 0
PD127 null
PD128 null
PD129 null
PD130 0
PD131 60
PD132 005
PD133 060
PD134 060
PD135 095
PD136 030
PD137 080
PD138 20.00
PD139 020
PD140 null
PD141 220.0
PD142 007.0
PD143 04
PD144 1440
PD145 02.0
PD146 040
PD147 0000
PD148 null
PD149 null
PD150 1
PD151 0.00
PD152 01.0
PD153 0
PD154 00.5
PD155 00
PD156 100.0
PD157 5.0
PD158 00.00
PD159 000.0
PD160 0
PD161 100
PD162 000
PD163 000
PD164 1
PD165 0
PD166 null
PD167 null
PD168 null
PD169 null
PD170 00
PD171 7
PD172 00
PD173 255.0
PD174 7.0
PD175 0
PD176 0
PD177 EoL.n
PD178 EoL.A
PD179 EoL.n
PD180 Elu.d
PD181 Ur1.00
PD182 20068
PD183 65535
Re: HY VFD - Error code E.oL.n
Sorry, I just realized I listed neutral wired to "S" but it is wired to "T" sorry for any confusion.
Re: HY VFD - Error code E.oL.n
Also i just found my printed manual! - the digital copy does not show E.oL.n but the printed one does
it states:
Inverter overload 150% Per minute
1.Check whether the capacity of the inverter is lower, Otherwise is should be increased
Reply - it is a 1.5kw spindle and 1.5kw VFD - should be ok??
2.Check whether there is any jamming in the mechanical load
Reply - Error can occur when spinning in free air - i cant find and jamming in motion?
3.The setting of V/F curve is bad, Set it again.
Reply - Unsure how to do this.
Re: HY VFD - Error code E.oL.n
Quote:
Originally Posted by
adamhobbs1986
Also i just found my printed manual! - the digital copy does not show E.oL.n but the printed one does
it states:
Inverter overload 150% Per minute
1.Check whether the capacity of the inverter is lower, Otherwise is should be increased
Reply - it is a 1.5kw spindle and 1.5kw VFD - should be ok??
2.Check whether there is any jamming in the mechanical load
Reply - Error can occur when spinning in free air - i cant find and jamming in motion?
3.The setting of V/F curve is bad, Set it again.
Reply - Unsure how to do this.
Yes R and T Plus Ground / Earth is correct for this VFD Drive
Your 10Amp fuse is way to small you need a minimum of 20Amp to run this VFD Drive and spindle
Also check the spindle connection your connections may be bad as well in the Plug, check the the 4th pin in the plug Ground has continuity, if not you will have to remove the top cap and connect the Ground / Earth
Those Parameters are not suitable, you will have to do a factory Reset as your Parameters are not correct
These are the only Parameters you have to set
Huanyang Mactec54
1.5Kw 220v 400Hz Water Cooled
PD000=0 ( 0 For Parameter unlock ) ( 1 For Locked )
PD001=0 (1 For Remote Control)
PD002=0 ( 1 For 0-10v Terminal Control or Remote Trim Pot Control )
( J1 Also Needs to be set for Remote Terminal Control 1-2 jumper connection )
PD003=400
PD004=400
PD005=400
PD006=140
PD007=20
PD008=220 (Motor Rated Voltage )
PD009=77
PD010=11
PD011=120 ( 100 Minimum Setting )
PD013= 08 (is for Factory reset, Only use this to set VFD to Factory Default Settings )
PD014=8 ( Acceleration Adjust to suit)
PD015=8 ( Deceleration Adjust to suit)
PD023=0 ( Forward Run Only )
PD041=8 ( Carrier Frequency up to 10 Max for these Spindle motors)
PD120=120 ( Stall Prevention )
PD141=220 ( Motor Rated Voltage )
PD142=7
PD143=2 ( Motor Number of Poles)
PD144=3000 (Max Motor RPM) 3,000= (24,000)
PD070=0 ( This may need to be set to 1 if Control Voltage is 0-5v )
PD072=400
PD073=120 ( 100 Minimum RPM Setting )
PD174= ??? ( To Be Set to the VFD Drives Max Rated Output Amps )
Re: HY VFD - Error code E.oL.n
Hi Mactec54,
I have tried the settings, and whilst it does seem to make the spindle run much better than it did before I still got the E.oL.n error.
This time though while it ran I saw fluctuations in the speed of the spindle before the error appeared, it slowed down for a little bit, tried to ramp back up then the error appeared??
I hope something isn't damaged as its only about 1/2 year old.
when the fluctuations occurred you could see the Hz change on the VFD screen.
I did check all the connections, but I think ill buy new power wire and re-wire the power back into the VFD and redo all connections to the spindle to eliminate any chance of that being the culprit.
fingers crossed there is a solution, I really don't want to buy a new VFD or spindle.
thanks very much for the help you have given so far.
Re: HY VFD - Error code E.oL.n
Quote:
Originally Posted by
adamhobbs1986
Hi Mactec54,
I have tried the settings, and whilst it does seem to make the spindle run much better than it did before I still got the E.oL.n error.
This time though while it ran I saw fluctuations in the speed of the spindle before the error appeared, it slowed down for a little bit, tried to ramp back up then the error appeared??
I hope something isn't damaged as its only about 1/2 year old.
when the fluctuations occurred you could see the Hz change on the VFD screen.
I did check all the connections, but I think ill buy new power wire and re-wire the power back into the VFD and redo all connections to the spindle to eliminate any chance of that being the culprit.
fingers crossed there is a solution, I really don't want to buy a new VFD or spindle.
thanks very much for the help you have given so far.
Run lighter cuts and see if that helps
The error is low voltage, or a wiring problem, your supply is not large enough, a minimum of 20Amp supply circuit, is required to run these spindles, wiring to suit, if it can't get enough juice then it will fail, running with those Parameters set, could have done some damage, this could well be a VFD Drive problem as well so lots of different things can cause these problems, the main one though is the Power supply, if you can measure this when the spindle is working, it may tell you what is going on
Is the cable from the spindle to the VFD Drive 4 wire Shielded cable ??? this is the ideal cable to use, IGUS CF6-10-04
Re: HY VFD - Error code E.oL.n
Quote:
Originally Posted by
mactec54
Run lighter cuts and see if that helps
The error is low voltage, or a wiring problem, your supply is not large enough, a minimum of 20Amp supply circuit, is required to run these spindles, wiring to suit, if it can't get enough juice then it will fail, running with those Parameters set, could have done some damage, this could well be a VFD Drive problem as well so lots of different things can cause these problems, the main one though is the Power supply, if you can measure this when the spindle is working, it may tell you what is going on
Is the cable from the spindle to the VFD Drive 4 wire Shielded cable ??? this is the ideal cable to use, IGUS CF6-10-04
Unfortunately the error is occurring when the spindle is spinning in free air, so cant get much lighter cuts than that haha.
I have got a equivalent VFD cable (4 wire shielded) to what you suggested, just a different brand.
I'll rewire it all over the next day or so and see. fingers crossed.
If you were to guess, excluding the Power requirements and wiring, would you say the VFD is the issue? just looking to see how much a replacement VFD will cost if I do need to replace. or would you say its more likely the spindle?
I realize that's a hard one to establish without being able to diagnose the problem exactly, I'm just forward planning as i have a job to cut on it within a few weeks.
Once again, I really appreciate all the help you have given so far.
Adam.
Re: HY VFD - Error code E.oL.n
Quote:
Originally Posted by
adamhobbs1986
Unfortunately the error is occurring when the spindle is spinning in free air, so cant get much lighter cuts than that haha.
I have got a equivalent VFD cable (4 wire shielded) to what you suggested, just a different brand.
I'll rewire it all over the next day or so and see. fingers crossed.
If you were to guess, excluding the Power requirements and wiring, would you say the VFD is the issue? just looking to see how much a replacement VFD will cost if I do need to replace. or would you say its more likely the spindle?
I realize that's a hard one to establish without being able to diagnose the problem exactly, I'm just forward planning as i have a job to cut on it within a few weeks.
Once again, I really appreciate all the help you have given so far.
Adam.
You can test the DC Bus voltage with the VFD Drive powered up, look for the +/- on the control terminals, make sure your meter is set to VDC for this.
Do not check the output voltage unless you have a low pass filter in the multimeter, most cheap meters can not be used for measuring the output of the VFD Drive.
How have you Grounded the shield ??? this has to be done correctly, as this can cause problems also.
You can test the spindle pins with a multimeter they should be very close to the same across each pair.
Pin 1 to Pin 2=
Pin2 to Pin3=
Pin3 to Pin1=
1 Attachment(s)
Re: HY VFD - Error code E.oL.n
Quote:
Originally Posted by
mactec54
You can test the DC Bus voltage with the VFD Drive powered up, look for the +/- on the control terminals, make sure your meter is set to VDC for this.
Do not check the output voltage unless you have a low pass filter in the multimeter, most cheap meters can not be used for measuring the output of the VFD Drive.
How have you Grounded the shield ??? this has to be done correctly, as this can cause problems also.
You can test the spindle pins with a multimeter they should be very close to the same across each pair.
Pin 1 to Pin 2=
Pin2 to Pin3=
Pin3 to Pin1=
Hey Mactec54, yes the shield is grounded and I created a diagram to explain how its was done, I was told this is the correct method.
on a positive note, I thought id go and factory reset the VFD this morning and put all the settings in again just in case I made a mistake, and I have not been able to get it to fault!
I'll test it every day for a week before I start any jobs but it seems to be running well for the moment.
I still plan on rewiring everything again to be sure.
fingers crossed its resolved!
Thanks again,
Adam.
4 Attachment(s)
Re: HY VFD - Error code E.oL.n
Quote:
Originally Posted by
adamhobbs1986
Hey Mactec54, yes the shield is grounded and I created a diagram to explain how its was done, I was told this is the correct method.
on a positive note, I thought id go and factory reset the VFD this morning and put all the settings in again just in case I made a mistake, and I have not been able to get it to fault!
I'll test it every day for a week before I start any jobs but it seems to be running well for the moment.
I still plan on rewiring everything again to be sure.
fingers crossed its resolved!
Thanks again,
Adam.
If the Shield is clamped by the plug body then that would be correct, the other end though is not correct, snips of how it should be connected, a shield should be connected directly to the Ground plane, your method is used by many but is not correct. the way you have it would not of caused the problem you have.
Yes sometimes a factory reset does not reset all the Parameters the first time, or you may have not put in ( 1 ) of the Parameters correct
