[Please help the beginner! ] Routakit HD VFD does not turn on

Help me!

I am a total beginner of CNC
In my guess, I feel that the connection from the motor drive to the VFD is not going well.
Can you tell me how you solved it?

Current status
• Completed wiring and assembling everything according to the manufacturer's instructions.
-It was possible to operate Mach3 and move it manually in the X-axis / Y-axis / Z-axis direction.
? I was able to complete the commissioning when I made VFD and spindle independent.
? I switched PD001 / 002 to 1 which is the VFD setting
? When the motor drive (Soigeneris STDR-4C) and the VFD are connected by wiring, the VFD power lamp does not turn ON.
The voltage of the VFD input power supply was measured by a tester, but the voltage is zero.

environment
Home power: 100V 15A 60Hz
Machine: Routakit HD
PC: Windows 10 (Mach 3)
MotorDriver: SoigenerisSTDR-4C (EthernetSmoothStepper / GeckoDriveG540)
VFD: Huanyang Hy01D511B


I have been troubled for more than a month on this issue and have not advanced.
I want you to help me.
May I have a reply?

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Originally Posted by hiki4026

Help me!

I am a total beginner of CNC
In my guess, I feel that the connection from the motor drive to the VFD is not going well.
Can you tell me how you solved it?

Current status
• Completed wiring and assembling everything according to the manufacturer's instructions.
-It was possible to operate Mach3 and move it manually in the X-axis / Y-axis / Z-axis direction.
? I was able to complete the commissioning when I made VFD and spindle independent.
? I switched PD001 / 002 to 1 which is the VFD setting
? When the motor drive (Soigeneris STDR-4C) and the VFD are connected by wiring, the VFD power lamp does not turn ON.
The voltage of the VFD input power supply was measured by a tester, but the voltage is zero.

environment
Home power: 100V 15A 60Hz
Machine: Routakit HD
PC: Windows 10 (Mach 3)
MotorDriver: SoigenerisSTDR-4C (EthernetSmoothStepper / GeckoDriveG540)
VFD: Huanyang Hy01D511B


I have been troubled for more than a month on this issue and have not advanced.
I want you to help me.
May I have a reply?

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Post some photos of the wiring

Thank you for your reply!
Attach multiple images.

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Originally Posted by hiki4026

Thank you for your reply!
Attach multiple images.

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What is this part need some better photos, it seems your wiring is not correct in this area but can not tell from the photos, the main input power supply is going where

Thank you for reply!
Attach multiple images.

I'm sorry I'm confusing because the attached image is a dark room. Currently this is night.

I also attached an explanatory image.
Do you understand this?

By the way, the wiring in this inverter is not what I did.
The finished product has arrived.

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Originally Posted by hiki4026

Thank you for reply!
Attach multiple images.

I'm sorry I'm confusing because the attached image is a dark room. Currently this is night.

I also attached an explanatory image.
Do you understand this?

By the way, the wiring in this inverter is not what I did.
The finished product has arrived.

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Ok you can not switch the output of the VFD Drive to the Spindle

The Switch should be before the Filter on the incoming power and the neutral should not be switched only the Power Live wire should be switched

The out put from the filter should go direct to the VFD Drives input Power R and T terminals and Ground / Earth to the Ground / Earth Terminal

The VFD Drive output power 3Phase then goes direct to the Spindle and needs to be a 4 wire shielded cable 3 Hot / Live wires and Ground /Earth wire

If you only have 100v 15A I don't think that is going to work very well, where are you located

Thank you for reply.

Mostly I understood what you said.
However, there are some parts that do not understand some meanings.

> The switch should be placed in front of the incoming force.
? Actually I am not sure if it is a switch box.
The reason I decided it was a switch box is because I saw the following site.
https://www.soigeneris.com/line-filter-and-switch-box
? Please also refer to the attached image
? Motor driver has arranged Soigeneris STDR-4C of the same maker.

About the filter site image and mine look the same.
But with the top blue switch box, my black box is different.
The blue box on the site has an analog switch on the back.
But the back of my black box is only stuck to the metal box.

I determined that it was a digital relay switch, is it correct?
Should it be in front of the filter, even if it is a digital relay switch?

> The neutral should not be switched only the Power Live wire should be switched
? I do not understand the meaning of sentences well.
Can you tell me a little more?

Furthermore, I am a product designer, so I am not very good at engineering.
I asked the manufacturer many times but there was no reply.
I was really in trouble and asked for help in this forum.

?The out put from the filter should go direct to the VFD Drives input Power R and T terminals and Ground / Earth to the Ground / Earth Terminal
? The three wires of the VFD input power supply were initially connected to S, T, and Earth.
I will try to see if it works if I change to R, T and Earth.

> VFD Drive output power 3 Phase then goes direct to the Spindle and needs to be a 4 wire shielded cable 3 Hot / Live wires and Ground / Earth wire
? I understood.

> If you have 100v 15A I don't think that is going to work very well
? I am in Japan.
I am Japanese and not good at English.
This sentence is also created by relying on google translation.
The motor driver, VFD, and spindle are arranged for 110V.

Would you please reply again?

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Originally Posted by hiki4026

Thank you for reply.

Mostly I understood what you said.
However, there are some parts that do not understand some meanings.

> The switch should be placed in front of the incoming force.
? Actually I am not sure if it is a switch box.
The reason I decided it was a switch box is because I saw the following site.
https://www.soigeneris.com/line-filter-and-switch-box
? Please also refer to the attached image
? Motor driver has arranged Soigeneris STDR-4C of the same maker.

About the filter site image and mine look the same.
But with the top blue switch box, my black box is different.
The blue box on the site has an analog switch on the back.
But the back of my black box is only stuck to the metal box.

I determined that it was a digital relay switch, is it correct?
Should it be in front of the filter, even if it is a digital relay switch?

> The neutral should not be switched only the Power Live wire should be switched
? I do not understand the meaning of sentences well.
Can you tell me a little more?

Furthermore, I am a product designer, so I am not very good at engineering.
I asked the manufacturer many times but there was no reply.
I was really in trouble and asked for help in this forum.

?The out put from the filter should go direct to the VFD Drives input Power R and T terminals and Ground / Earth to the Ground / Earth Terminal
? The three wires of the VFD input power supply were initially connected to S, T, and Earth.
I will try to see if it works if I change to R, T and Earth.

> VFD Drive output power 3 Phase then goes direct to the Spindle and needs to be a 4 wire shielded cable 3 Hot / Live wires and Ground / Earth wire
? I understood.

> If you have 100v 15A I don't think that is going to work very well
? I am in Japan.
I am Japanese and not good at English.
This sentence is also created by relying on google translation.
The motor driver, VFD, and spindle are arranged for 110V.

Would you please reply again?

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I determined that it was a digital relay switch, is it correct?
Should it be in front of the filter, even if it is a digital relay switch?

Yes it could be a solid state Relay, yes it should be in front of the filter, this turns the power on then through the filter to the VFD Drive

Do you have a Multimeter this you will need to test the power connections

I will have to look more closely to see what they have done

Have you checked the Estop button is released if this is pushed in it will not power the VFD Drive

Thank you.
> It is guessed that it is a solid state relay.
I understand.

I own a multi-tester.

1) But I do not know where to measure how.

2) I do not know how to rewire the motor driver ~ solid state relay ~ filter ~ VFD.

Can I get some hints?

The Estop button is well off.
Since the motor of each axis of X / Y / Z can be moved,
There is no problem with the current situation.

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Originally Posted by hiki4026

Thank you.
> It is guessed that it is a solid state relay.
I understand.

I own a multi-tester.

1) But I do not know where to measure how.

2) I do not know how to rewire the motor driver ~ solid state relay ~ filter ~ VFD.

Can I get some hints?

The Estop button is well off.
Since the motor of each axis of X / Y / Z can be moved,
There is no problem with the current situation.

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So what appears to be happening is the solidstate relay is not turning on, it may be faulty or wired incorrect, I can not tell as I don't know what type the Relay it is, this is not normal to use this type of Relay to switch a VFD Drive main Power On/Off


So you may be able to do this

Change your wiring and bypass the Relay, Power OFF Disconnect the main Power to the Relay

Connect the Input Power supply Direct to the Filter, look for an arrow for Power Flow Direction

Filter Output Direct to the VFD Drive R and T Terminals and Ground to the Ground Terminal, the VFD should then Power up when you plug it in

Thanks for the polite explanation!

I need time to consider whether to get rid of solid state relays.

Because I am an amateur, I am afraid that I will be awfully lost after making a big correction.

Also, although the manufacturer's support is not good, I see a lot of on-site images of other people's finished products.
So, does the manufacturer mistake the device wiring order? And I have a concern.

I received a lot of advice, I want to run after thinking.
Thank you very much for your kindness.
I will post again if there is progress in the near future.

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Originally Posted by hiki4026

Thanks for the polite explanation!

I need time to consider whether to get rid of solid state relays.

Because I am an amateur, I am afraid that I will be awfully lost after making a big correction.

Also, although the manufacturer's support is not good, I see a lot of on-site images of other people's finished products.
So, does the manufacturer mistake the device wiring order? And I have a concern.

I received a lot of advice, I want to run after thinking.
Thank you very much for your kindness.
I will post again if there is progress in the near future.

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It would not change anything to bypass the Solidstate Relay which should not be there anyway it has been very poorly done I don't believe that these people selling this are qualified to be doing this type of work

It should have a Circuit Breaker then the Filter then connect to the VFD Drive

To Mactec54

Sorry for my late reply.

I asked the manufacturer of the motor driver Soigeneris, which solved this problem.

I made various measurements with a multi-tester,
The cause was the profile data used by Mach3.

When you first open Mach3,
I created a new profile and used profile data just named ?Routakit_HD?.

However, when using profile data optimized for Routakit from Soigeneris, the relay click sounded and the VFD was turned on.

In other words, there was no problem in terms of hardware.

I received no explanation from Routakit.
It is a situation of severe support to the amateur.
(Though I knew that I needed profile data)
Or is it a problem that I do not know such common sense?

Anyway, I can go ahead.
Thank you for your warm support.
Also, if you do not understand something, I will ask you questions on this bulletin board.