SL-3 with Yasnac LX-1 navagation/programming help
I just go my new 1983 SL-3 up and running. It has the Yasnac LX-1 controller. I'd like to see the programs that are stored in the machine so I can learn from them. From the Alarm page I can see that there are two programs, but I can't figure out how to view them. I don't have a programming manual. I hope someone can help.
After I get past that hurdle, I want to start writing my own programs. I'll start from the console and later move to a PC via the RS232 port. For now just the console operation. How do I type in and store a program?
If anybody has a programmers manual, cheap, let me know. Or, a quick reply to get me started would be greatly appreciated.
Greg
Re: SL-3 with Yasnac LX-1 navagation/programming help
Hello Greg, Welcome to the Yasnac experience....Instructions below should get you started.
Program Load-
-Turn the key on the left side of the control all the way to the right. This unlocks editing.
-Turn the controller mode knob all the way to the left (to EDIT)
-Press PRG Button(Program)
-Type O0500(program number example)
-Then Press EOB. Make sure and start the program number with the letter O
Now you are ready to start programming.
-At the end of each line of code make sure and press EOB and then the "Insert" button under edit.
-If you realize that a mistake has been made when entering the code use the space down arrow key to toggle to the location that needs to be fixed type in the correct code( which will be shown in the lower left of the screen)
-Then Press the "Altor" button( this will replace everything in the deignated space. If things go hay wire dont be afrsaid to use the Erase buttom but make sure and identify where your curser is prior or you could end up erasing more than you need. I have gained a lot of practice with this.:confused:
-After you've entered the code you want, press "Reset"
-Turn the Key back to the left
-switch the controler knob to memory
-Press "Reset"
Your now ready to run the program.
I hope I didn't miss anything, I made myself a cheat sheet because the manual is so challenging to figure out.
I haven't been running this machine very long but I'm starting to get a bit more confidence. I'm struggling with tool offsets a little because my controler doesn't have a "PRC" button. I can set tool "1" and drills no problem but addtional tools with slightly differant tip locations are giving me a little trouble. Good Luck and. I hope this helps,
Pat
Re: SL-3 with Yasnac LX-1 navagation/programming help
Thanks, Pat! Since posting those early questions, I have figured out how to get around most of the screens. Your instructions are complete and accurate. And, you are correct, the users manual leaves a lot to the imagination. I have been able to connect my computer to the controller and communicate via RS232. I'm using Inventor HSM simply as a G-code editor and writing my code. This is a lot more user friendly, and easier than standing at the machine all day. The problem is, I do not have a good post processor for the Yasnac controller, so it's easier to simply write my code than to fix what the Fanuc post processor spits out. And so, writing code is where my challenge is currently. I can do the basics, but am trying to figure out some of the canned cycles. Getting the parameters right seems difficult, and the manual... well, you know.
I could also use some help with the offsets. If anybody wants to help out, that would be great! My controller has several pages for offsets; numbered from 0 - 99. Some pages are labeled "Wear", others, something else, and some have no label. I don't understand the difference as it relates to this machine. It seems that only one offset gets picked up at a time, and that's the one you specify when you call up the tool i.e. T0308 calls tool 3, and offset 8. I'm using a G50 line in all my code to move the zero point to the centerline of the spindle in X, and the face of the part in Z. I then use the offset to move each tool to align with that same spot. I don't know if that's what everybody else does, but it's working. I'd love to hear other's advice.
Greg
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Re: SL-3 with Yasnac LX-1 navagation/programming help
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Originally Posted by
gregorio3389
Thanks, Pat! Since posting those early questions, I have figured out how to get around most of the screens. Your instructions are complete and accurate. And, you are correct, the users manual leaves a lot to the imagination. I have been able to connect my computer to the controller and communicate via RS232. I'm using Inventor HSM simply as a G-code editor and writing my code. This is a lot more user friendly, and easier than standing at the machine all day. The problem is, I do not have a good post processor for the Yasnac controller, so it's easier to simply write my code than to fix what the Fanuc post processor spits out. And so, writing code is where my challenge is currently. I can do the basics, but am trying to figure out some of the canned cycles. Getting the parameters right seems difficult, and the manual... well, you know.
I could also use some help with the offsets. If anybody wants to help out, that would be great! My controller has several pages for offsets; numbered from 0 - 99. Some pages are labeled "Wear", others, something else, and some have no label. I don't understand the difference as it relates to this machine. It seems that only one offset gets picked up at a time, and that's the one you specify when you call up the tool i.e. T0308 calls tool 3, and offset 8. I'm using a G50 line in all my code to move the zero point to the centerline of the spindle in X, and the face of the part in Z. I then use the offset to move each tool to align with that same spot. I don't know if that's what everybody else does, but it's working. I'd love to hear other's advice.
Greg
Sorry to revive an old thread.
we got a mori seiki SL-3 with a yasnac lx1 control and i figured out most of the controls except wen running a program it tries to crash the machine, it runs right past the face of the part and keeps going twoards tha chuck, any help is appreciated, maybe my tool offsets are wrong or my program, here's what camworks spits out.
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O0002
N1 G20
N2 M42
N3 G50 X0 Z0 S3000
N4 G50 T5200
N5 G00 G97 S1000 F.0161 M08
N6 M03
N7 G99
N8 G00 X-8. Z.1071
N9 G99
N10 X-1.0141
N11 G01 X-.8 Z0
N12 Z-.0755
N13 G02 X-.9017 Z-.1091 R.8007
N14 X-.944 Z-.1503 R.0507
N15 G01 Z-.2091
N16 X-1.
N17 X-1.0141 Z-.2021
N18 G00 X-1.2141
N19 Z.0071
N20 X-.6509
N21 G01 X-.6368 Z0
N22 Z-.0322
N23 G02 X-.8 Z-.0755 R.8007
N24 G01 X-.8194 Z-.0731
N25 X-.8494
N26 G00 X-1.0194
N27 Z.01
N28 X-.5555
N29 G01 X-.4736
N30 Z0
N31 G02 X-.6368 Z-.0322 R.8007
N32 G01 X-.6555 Z-.0287
N33 G00 Z.108
N34 X-.2728
N35 Z.008
N36 G01 X-.2838 Z-.0003
N37 G02 X-.8725 Z-.1294 R.7757
N38 X-.894 Z-.1503 R.0257
N39 G01 Z-.2341
N40 X-.9686
N41 X-.9827 Z-.2271
N42 G51 G00 X-1.1827 M09
N43 M30
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Attachment 451590
part origin is set up at the front of the part but its just not working. i have 7 years experience with fadal but its my first time using a lathe.
thanks in advance.
Re: SL-3 with Yasnac LX-1 navagation/programming help
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Originally Posted by
jack123529
Sorry to revive an old thread.
we got a mori seiki SL-3 with a yasnac lx1 control and i figured out most of the controls except wen running a program it tries to crash the machine, it runs right past the face of the part and keeps going twoards tha chuck, any help is appreciated, maybe my tool offsets are wrong or my program, here's what camworks spits out.
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O0002
N1 G20
N2 M42
N3 G50 X0 Z0 S3000
N4 G50 T5200
N5 G00 G97 S1000 F.0161 M08
N6 M03
N7 G99
N8 G00 X-8. Z.1071
N9 G99
N10 X-1.0141
N11 G01 X-.8 Z0
N12 Z-.0755
N13 G02 X-.9017 Z-.1091 R.8007
N14 X-.944 Z-.1503 R.0507
N15 G01 Z-.2091
N16 X-1.
N17 X-1.0141 Z-.2021
N18 G00 X-1.2141
N19 Z.0071
N20 X-.6509
N21 G01 X-.6368 Z0
N22 Z-.0322
N23 G02 X-.8 Z-.0755 R.8007
N24 G01 X-.8194 Z-.0731
N25 X-.8494
N26 G00 X-1.0194
N27 Z.01
N28 X-.5555
N29 G01 X-.4736
N30 Z0
N31 G02 X-.6368 Z-.0322 R.8007
N32 G01 X-.6555 Z-.0287
N33 G00 Z.108
N34 X-.2728
N35 Z.008
N36 G01 X-.2838 Z-.0003
N37 G02 X-.8725 Z-.1294 R.7757
N38 X-.894 Z-.1503 R.0257
N39 G01 Z-.2341
N40 X-.9686
N41 X-.9827 Z-.2271
N42 G51 G00 X-1.1827 M09
N43 M30
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Attachment 451590
part origin is set up at the front of the part but its just not working. i have 7 years experience with fadal but its my first time using a lathe.
thanks in advance.
i just got it to work just by poking around the controller :D
