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Newbie Question re: What machine and pieces per hour
Hi guys (and girls) am researching potential machine to run similar parts as the attached picture. Essentially it is several circles cut out of a 4x8 sheet of 3/4" plywood, along with 30 - 1/2 dia. holes.
Not familiar with CNC routers and not sure what type of machine would be required in a production setting (m/c running 8 hours per day) and approximately how many 4x8 sheets could be processed in a days shift.
As always cost is a factor which is why the Shopbot PRsalpha models look promising versus an expensive Multicam type brute.
Hopefully someone can make some machine recomenedations along with approximate parts per hour.
Thanks for all the help.
Newbie Question re: What machine and pieces per hour
Here is the question, that you 1st must answer. How much are you looking to spend, and what is going to be your run time, because there is no way a shopbot is going to run 8 hour continuous, and new machine may start off that way, but if you are going to run these types of items and hours. You are going to need the BIG IRON...and there are plenty of used machines out there, that for what a new ShopBOT cost, you can get a used CNC, Vacuum Pump and Software for what the 5x10 machine runs. Check it out here are couple of websites..
www.cncfactory.com
www.xfactory.com
hell even ebay.com
You can even put in the contract, they the purchase is based on the machine running correctly or they repair the machine at their cost or you can ship the machine back for a refund, I have installed two machines, with these types of contracts.
Newbie Question re: What machine and pieces per hour
I took your pieces and created them in Enroute, and punch your 1/2"holes with a 1/2" endmill at 200 ipm @ 18000rpms, and cut the circles out with a 3/8" endmill at 400 ipm @ 18000 rpms. Now mind you I did not have a correct length defined in the tool library and I did leave a onion skin of .045 to maintain vacuum, but it looks like the est. time is going to be for a full sheet approx. 13-15 mins and that time can be modified, it is possible to cut the sheet out faster, if you choose the cut order to cut in a more logical manner.
If you have anymore question, please ask.
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Chris
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If you do decide to purchase a used Multicam machine, please give me the opportunity to discuss with you how MCP can meet your installation needs..
Newbie Question re: What machine and pieces per hour
Spindle HP, you may want to consider 10hp spindle or higher is possible. I know it can get costly, with a bigger spindle, but you will be glad that you have a higher hp spindle, I can take a 10hp Eurospindle with a Onsrud 60-123MW and easily cut at 400ipm@ 18000, and can push it faster with not problem, then come back and cut your onion skin at say 200 ipm, now if the plywood is warped, a fixture may not be a bad idea, in addition to a 20hp PD vacuum pump to assist with hold down.
OH....and yes I was accounting for the material being slightly over sized 97" by 49".
Vacuum: if you can find a 20 hp PD, with a machine package it is great hold down, specific for panel processing.
PD= Positive Displacement Pump
In choosing a used machine, make sure you do an inspection, hire someone to make sure the machine is mechanically/electrically sound, take pictures or video if the machine is still under power, make sure the contract has some provisions for repair or return.
I just recently had to stop an install because the customer did not know the machine is wired for 440volts, vs the standard 230 volts. They are kind of lucky, there are other buildings in the area that have higher incoming voltages, that they are going to be able to move into.
Their other opinion was for me to change out about a half dozen components, approx 3200.00 for parts alone, so make sure you get a SN# and call the manufacture, a lot of times all the info you need is tagged with the SN#numbers.
A little research goes a long way.