[Invest0rs]

Hello fellow CNC enthusiast. I was hoping you could help me with something. I have an XZero Raptor that uses the normal Hitachi router that I currently have plugged into an extension cord. I would really like to set it up so that it is plugged into a switch that is controlled by Mach 3 so that when it is done cutting, the switch kills power to the router. Is anyone familiar with this type of setup and if so where I can get the switch to be able to do this. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Stacey

[john-100]

would "power over ethernet " solve your problem ?

when only 4 of the 8 wires in an ethernet cable is used for data

using ready made adaptors
the two unused pairs can be used to power the router from a remote power supply

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_over_Ethernet

for example




John

PS

what controller do you have ?

if you don't already have a mains socket under control of mach3
you could possibly use some thing like this C55 board from cnc4pc
( provided you have 2 spare outputs on your breakout board )

https://cnc4pc.com/c55-dual-25amp-relay-board.html

[ger21]

You need a relay to control the router, and have Mach3 activate the relay.

[Invest0rs]

Ger21, do you know where I can get the relay?

[mactec54]

Hello fellow CNC enthusiast. I was hoping you could help me with something. I have an XZero Raptor that uses the normal Hitachi router that I currently have plugged into an extension cord. I would really like to set it up so that it is plugged into a switch that is controlled by Mach 3 so that when it is done cutting, the switch kills power to the router. Is anyone familiar with this type of setup and if so where I can get the switch to be able to do this. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Stacey

You could use a Relay to turn the router on/off with Mach3

[Invest0rs]

Still looking for this mystery relay. Any ideas where to get one?

[john-100]

an example linked to in post 2

Attachment 363312

Attachment 363314

an alternative could be

Attachment 363316

Attachment 363318

details of your control will be required to give you a wiring diagram to connect a relay to your controller

John

[Invest0rs]

I have the Leadshine MX3660 for my control board/Stepper drive. Does this help?

[john-100]

Leadshine MX3660 thats the information we need

looking at the manual Attachment 363322



Attachment 363324

I will look to see what relays can be used


John

PS
update

the MX3660 manual does not give any detail of the outputs but the MX4660 does

Attachment 363326

with the 1K resistor connecting the NPN transistors collector to the output terminal
this limits the current the output can sink

since it can not source current from a +5v supply it can not easily interface
with the boards in post 7


PPS

adapting the 2N7000 relay driver in the thread here -

http://www.cnczone.com/forums/genera...477-cnc-2.html

Attachment 363328


this is what I have in mind

Attachment 363330

when the MX3660 output is open

the first FET is switched on by the 10K resistor connecting the gate to +12V

the first FET grounds the 2nd FETS gate and switches it off (and the relay)

(the 5V Zenner ensures the MX3660 input is not taken above +5V)

when the MX3660 output grounds the first FET's gate

the first FET will be switched off and as a result the 2nd FET and relay is switched on


I guess we need a MX3660 / MX4660 user that has connected a relay to there controller
to post a proven solution

[john-100]

update

not knowing if you or some one you know can build this kit

https://www.electronickits.com/dual-...lay-board-kit/

Attachment 363332


I think you will need to increase the values of the resistors R1 & R4
from 10K to 22K to ensure the MX3660 output can pull the LO inputs down to a valid LO level

Attachment 363334

this is the closest I have found that will work with the MX3660 / MX4660

John

[Invest0rs]

Let just assume for a moment that I have not got a clue about what you guys are talking about. I wired my Controller board up for my machine, but it had directions and I only had to connect wires where ever the instructions told me to. Is there a "plug and play" answer for my question. I am seeing pictures of other controller boards and hearing talk of changing resistors, hi/lo signals, etc..., and I haven't the foggiest idea what I need. I am really great with the CNC machine but a COMPLETE novice when it comes to stuff like this.

[john-100]

OK ,

the K156 DIY assembly kit is no longer an option
so a wiring diagram is no use


may be a Solid State Relay could be the answer

I have modifed this diagram in the manual

Attachment 363348


this shows the connections between the MX3660 and a solid state relay

Attachment 363350

its midnight now so I will add more in another post tomorrow


John

[Invest0rs]

OK, I am part of the way there as far as understanding. From what I am looking at, am I going to need another power supply??? I think I understand the DC relay, but where, how, and with what does the router plug into???

[john-100]

Hi

sorry for the delay
last night I did not expect to be at Norton Priory most of the day !
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norton_Priory

later than I expected this is the second part of the diagram in yesterdays post

Attachment 363414

yes , you will need some thing like a 24V @100mA (2.4 W ) power supply for the MX3660 control of the relays
if 24V @1/2A or 24V @1A is less expensive than a 24V @100mA power its OK to use the larger power supply


SSR-25DA should be easy to find
its a 25A device that can pass a current of 25A when it fitted to a heatsink


Attachment 363416

John

[Invest0rs]

Is there a chance that my current PS for my MX3660 would have a 24VDC output that could be used for the SSR?

[john-100]

I don't see any reason why not

I had expected the MX3660 power supply your using to of been higher to enable you to obtain higher motor speeds

using your existing 24V supply will defeat the MX3660 opt-isolators on the outputs
but this will not matter since the SSR-25DA has its own opto-isolator input for a DC control voltage between 4 & 32V

John

[Invest0rs]

Would this 24VDC PS work
https://cnc4pc.com/hardware/power-su...er-supply.html

[john-100]

yes ,
that power supply will be OK

John

PS
just followed the CNC4PC link and I see they sell the Solid State Relay as well

https://cnc4pc.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=ssr

[Invest0rs]

OK, so I need the power supply, 2 of the SSR's (the same type for both I am assuming will be OK), and the wiring between the components, is that correct. Will I also need to setup Mach3 in any way?

[Invest0rs]

Sorry, I didn't read the post prior to your last one. I am using a router that plugs into the wall so I am not using the power supply in any capacity in conjunction with my router. Provided I am able to find an output of 24vdc on the power supply, your saying that my existing PS should work?