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    1994 4020HT Drawbar force???

    I am in the middle of replacing my belleville springs and have found conflicting prints regarding the amount of springs that my machine requires. It has a 10k spindle with a locking drawbar. The spring pocket is 4.25" deep. My manual has a print that shows 42 springs, and another that shows 43. I put 42 springs in and I get 1175 lbs. When I put 43 springs in I get 1725 lbs. Does anyone know without a doubt how many springs are supposed to be in this pig, or what the drawbar force is supposed to be?

    Thanks,

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    42 wahers; first one at botton face down, top one face up.

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    Locking drawbar sould be 1650 to 2000 psi. Non-locking drawbar should be 700 to 1000 psi.

    Neal

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    Thanks,
    I went with 43 springs. I'm right around 1700 LBS.

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    Question

    Quote Originally Posted by Neal View Post
    Locking drawbar sould be 1650 to 2000 psi. Non-locking drawbar should be 700 to 1000 psi.

    Neal
    Neal,
    Please explain locking vs nonlocking?? This is new to me.
    Thanks,
    Steve

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    Steve--
    The locking drawar will have a spider-like device at the top of the drawbar held on with 4 cap screws and containing ball bearings that lock in place thereby increasing the retention PSI.

    Neal

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    Am I correct assuming that the locking drawbar is usually used/specified on machines that see/saw really heavy cuts?

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    Oh,just curious but, how is drawbar force measured?

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    I have this one:
    http://www.clamprite.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neal View Post
    Steve--
    The locking drawar will have a spider-like device at the top of the drawbar held on with 4 cap screws and containing ball bearings that lock in place thereby increasing the retention PSI.

    Neal
    Thanks Neal...
    Steve

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    Quote Originally Posted by mniadna View Post
    I have this one:
    http://www.clamprite.com/
    Nice! $800 makes this purchase hurt so much less. Thanks for posting that link.

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