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  1. #1
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    Using laser for cutting and/or engraving

    Hi!
    Just came home from a course at Trumpf-laser in Schramberg, Germany.
    Learned a lot from these people about lasers; if i can assist in ANY way choosing a laser to build yourself don't hesitate to reply...
    seems there are a lot of do's and don't s which might be hazardous ...

    www.trumpf-laser.de

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    Can you tell me how much it will cost 500W laser head for cutting.

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    500w laser

    depends what you'd like to cut; steel, or plastics?
    cw-laser with a nd:yag rod is quite expensive (DON'T look for ruby rods!) look for it on ebay...
    i think for hobby you can best use a co2 laser; kits available for homemade.
    google on laser diy
    dpss lasers are nice too; high output for 10ms
    first check what you want to cut most, then look for the right laser.

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    I need a capability of 0.5 " of aluminum. What type and power would you reccomend?
    Halfnutz

    (Note: The opinions expressed in this post are my own and are not necessarily those of CNCzone and its management)

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    I plans to build 4axis laser cutting machine and I want to know how much I need power for cut 3 -5 mm carbon steel, stainless steel and titan and how much is price of laser.I plans to cut small holes diametar 2mm in tube and cut sheet metal I need these machine I plans to build car exhaust systems.


    Sorry for bad english I hope thad you will understand.

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    laser type

    for alu you have to watch out! absorbsion level is different from steel...
    you can destroy your laser with it....
    for steel and stainless 1KW-2KW might do the trick; co2 is more affordable than yag-laser (180kw input for 2kw output); use allways N2 gas or oxygen for cutting (shielding gas).
    you will also need the right optics for focussing the light bundle optimal.
    try to get more info from a ''local'' distributor; you can't say : a laser is a laser.
    all types (yag, dpss, co2 etc.) have their own do's and don'ts.
    Perhaps a hobbyist already made one himself, find with google.
    As soon as i have my mind made up and found all the info i need i will keep you informed. DON'T GO FOR THE RUBY LASERS ON EBAY!!!! nice for lightshows....
    And if you really want a yag-laser; make sure you get a ND:YAG rod and not a ND:glas rod!
    1 nd;yag rod is good for about 500W; i use 4 sets on my machine at work...
    First of all: get as much info as you can get, since laser is not a toy to play with!
    i can know....
    success

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    But which type is best for me and from laser specifications which specifications is important to look.

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    laser type

    well, after a good night of sleep i would use myself a co2 laser for cutting/welding (needs 2 types of optic heads); for perfect small holes you would need a pulsed laser. But a co2 could probably also make holes, though not perfect.
    take at least 1KW power, so you can do almost everything.

    Otherwise try to look at a oxygen/acetylene ''autogene'' cutting system; not so perfect cuts, but affordable.
    When looking for a yag-laser, make sure the rod is some purple, otherwise it's a ruby (red) or a glas rod (clear).

    And....safety first!!! make sure you get the right goggles for the type of laser you buy!!!! Wavelength of yag-laser=1,06 micrometer; co2=10,6 micrometer.
    When a laser is on, there is always some light reflecting which can be hazardous for your eyes!!! And these wavelengths CANNOT be seen with human eyes. For positioning you might need a small(1mW) laserpointer mounted on your system, so you can try it before actually cutting...

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    Ther are no lasers for cutting steel at hobby level pricing. The Ndyag lasers at 2kw are in the $250,000 price range. Plus you need a robot or x-y table on top of that.
    We use 1.5 Kw Lumonics Yag lasers to cut .060 steel (quickly).

    They are very expensive to buy and very expensive to operate. I think we spent +/- $3,000,000 for our cutting cell which consists of 3 lasers, 4 cutting robots and 4 material handling robots. We make auto frame components.

    It's cheaper to go High Definition plasma if you can get away with slightly less cut quality.

    Eric
    I wish it wouldn't crash.

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    I find these and what you think.


    Coherent General E7000 / CO2 rated 550 watts, producing 500+ watts CW & pulsed / 0.1-10 msec pulse widths / 10-2500 Hz / 208-240 VAC 3 phase input / includes: spare optics, manuals, model 204 power meter / mfrd '89 w/17K hrs / operational when taken out of service / fair cond

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    A sight with an attitude gota love it.

    Dave


    Quote Originally Posted by wilfredtak

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    laser power calculation

    i just downloaded a great program which can determine what power to use for which material!
    co2 laser only....
    mail me if you want a copy!

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    What type of laser would you reccomend for cutting up to 1/4" plywood in terms of power, size and cost. What components make up the laser system... tube, powersupply, cooling etc? I'm a novice and considering building a laser CNC machine for production work so any throw as much at me as you can.. :-)

    thanks, Craig.

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    try this ...


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    synrad has a utility program named lasercutting, which can determine what power laser you might need.
    try it, it's a nice prg!

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