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    Do RPM's matter when cutting on a lathe?

    I'm modifying a taig lathe to turn a large diameter (12"+) wheel and since the motor is small and I will use step down pulleys to increase the torque but of course this will slow the speed of the material turning...

    Any disadvantages as far as quality of the cut, heating up, noise, etc... that I should be aware of while cutting a round part (out of steel) that is turning so slowly?

    (BTW, I realize I will be needing to take small amounts of material off at a time)

    Thanks in advance!

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    The "SFM" (surface feet per minute) or speed of the material surface relative to tool is what you are looking for. The same applies to any cutting operation, be it on a lathe, mill, shaper, saw, drill... Use your google-fu to find the recommended speeds for the material you are cutting, and the type of tool you are using (HSS vs. carbide)

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    Yes, but will a slow speed in itself cause major problems? I'm not looking for efficiency, I am already expecting to take of minimal amounts at a time, I'm wondering if the fact that the wheel will only turn 200 rpms or so will cause some obvious problems that I'm not aware of yet...?

    Thanks!

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    take a zero off and you will be somewhere near 20 rpm on a 12 dia

    assume 60 fpm

    them 60 x4 /12 =20 rpm

    the 12 is you work dia the 4 is a constant

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    I think the best answer I can give you is "sometimes". Most of the time, slow is ok. If you are using carbide cutters, they sometimes like higher speed and will give a better finish than at lower speeds. Not knowing what it is you're making, that's the best I can do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MychesterCNC View Post
    Yes, but will a slow speed in itself cause major problems? I'm not looking for efficiency, I am already expecting to take of minimal amounts at a time, I'm wondering if the fact that the wheel will only turn 200 rpms or so will cause some obvious problems that I'm not aware of yet...?

    Thanks!
    You want a cutting tool to cut and running a SFM that is to low will cause the tool to rub rather than cut. With a tool of any material if it isn't cutting then excessive heat is being generated. Excess heat will cause the tool tip to overheat and break down. Surface finish will suffer and some materials will harden. The excessive heat in the work piece can cause it to move after it cools leading to run out. The heat can cause the part to grow so after cutting it to dimension it will shrink after it cools, how much depends on a few factors, material; temperature; how deep the heat has soaked into the work piece; etc. The idea is to cut at a recommended SFM range based on work piece and tool material, RPM is how you achieve that SFM, so that heat is carried out of the cut to allow the tool bit tip to remain at a temperature that it is stable and below it's plastic state temperature.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MychesterCNC View Post
    I'm modifying a taig lathe to turn a large diameter (12"+) wheel and since the motor is small and I will use step down pulleys to increase the torque but of course this will slow the speed of the material turning...

    Any disadvantages as far as quality of the cut, heating up, noise, etc... that I should be aware of while cutting a round part (out of steel) that is turning so slowly?

    (BTW, I realize I will be needing to take small amounts of material off at a time)

    Thanks in advance!
    RPMs do matter when cutting on a lathe. Generally larger the diameter.... The slower the RPMs will be. As you cut closer and closer to the center..... The RPMs should increase more and more. The type of material that you are cutting determines how deep your cuts should be. If your material is steel and is "work hardening" (as you cut it... it gets harder) then you will have to take a heavier plunge cut, not a shallower one. If the material has a hard outer skin or a lot of rust.... Your initial cut should be deep enough to get underneath that. Of course all of this is contingent upon the amount of available torque in your spindle. You can get helpful information from "Machinery's Handbook" to determine proper feeds and speeds for that particular material. If you don't have a copy, consider purchasing one.... Even a used copy will work well for your purposes.

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