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    ARE SMITHY MACHINES USED / REBUILT?

    On another thread, a guy says Smithy imports used /rebuilt machines. I couldn't find anything on their website about it. When I called, I sort of got a run-around and no answer. What gives?

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    just a rumor started by the competition

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    Quote Originally Posted by flatheadford49 View Post
    just a rumor started by the competition
    Not a rumor and not by the competition-
    Here's the most recent shipment of used/rebuilt units. There have been more before this.

    Bill of Lading

    SHIPPER
    Shandong Linyi Jinxing Machine Tool
    Co.,ltd. Northern Section Of Hu Xi
    Road
    Linyi Cn



    CONSIGNEE
    Overland Inc.d.b.a.
    Smithy Company 170 Aprill Drive
    Ann Arbor
    Arbor Mi 48103 Us

    NOTIFY PARTIES
    Expeditors International,11101
    Metro Airport Center Drive,building
    M2,suite 110
    Romulus Mi 48174 Us

    PACKAGING INFORMATION
    Weight : 10,473 KG Measurement : 28 CM
    Quantity : 56 PKG
    SHIPMENT DETAIL

    Carrier Code : FTPA Origin :
    Vessel Name : Sealand Charger U.S. Port : 2709 - Long Beach, California
    Voyage : 1008 Foreign Port : 57047 - Qingdao, China
    B/L : FTPAFQ04453 U.S. Dest :
    Pre Carrier : Qingdao Foreign Dest :
    Vessel Code : 9143001 Mode of Transport : 10
    Inbond Code : 00 Arrival Date : 2010-04-25
    COMMODITIES
    Container Qty Commodity Description
    MEDU2238201 56 Lathes, Horiz, Used/rebuilt Multi-purpose Machines
    MARKS & NUMBERS
    Container Marks & Numbers
    MEDU2238201 Smithy P.o.7791 Detroit No.1-3/1-2/1-2/1-16 Made In China

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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    Is the tax rate different between used and new when importing or exporting? Could be a way around the system.
    Quote Originally Posted by sharpshooter90 View Post
    Not a rumor and not by the competition-
    Here's the most recent shipment of used/rebuilt units. There have been more before this.

    Bill of Lading

    SHIPPER
    Shandong Linyi Jinxing Machine Tool
    Co.,ltd. Northern Section Of Hu Xi
    Road
    Linyi Cn



    CONSIGNEE
    Overland Inc.d.b.a.
    Smithy Company 170 Aprill Drive
    Ann Arbor
    Arbor Mi 48103 Us

    NOTIFY PARTIES
    Expeditors International,11101
    Metro Airport Center Drive,building
    M2,suite 110
    Romulus Mi 48174 Us

    PACKAGING INFORMATION
    Weight : 10,473 KG Measurement : 28 CM
    Quantity : 56 PKG
    SHIPMENT DETAIL

    Carrier Code : FTPA Origin :
    Vessel Name : Sealand Charger U.S. Port : 2709 - Long Beach, California
    Voyage : 1008 Foreign Port : 57047 - Qingdao, China
    B/L : FTPAFQ04453 U.S. Dest :
    Pre Carrier : Qingdao Foreign Dest :
    Vessel Code : 9143001 Mode of Transport : 10
    Inbond Code : 00 Arrival Date : 2010-04-25
    COMMODITIES
    Container Qty Commodity Description
    MEDU2238201 56 Lathes, Horiz, Used/rebuilt Multi-purpose Machines
    MARKS & NUMBERS
    Container Marks & Numbers
    MEDU2238201 Smithy P.o.7791 Detroit No.1-3/1-2/1-2/1-16 Made In China

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fastest1 View Post
    Is the tax rate different between used and new when importing or exporting? Could be a way around the system.
    tax rate is indeed different.
    also smithy add their own controls in the US, so that may change the classification.

    or that shipment may have just been a repair load.

    in any case the poster is know for trying to cut down any machine that isnt the one he owns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ihavenofish View Post
    tax rate is indeed different.

    or that shipment may have just been a repair load.

    in any case the poster is know for trying to cut down any machine that isnt the one he owns.
    I just asked a question- Smithy sidesteps the issue-

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharpshooter90 View Post
    Not a rumor and not by the competition-
    Here's the most recent shipment of used/rebuilt units. There have been more before this.

    Bill of Lading

    SHIPPER
    Shandong Linyi Jinxing Machine Tool
    Co.,ltd. Northern Section Of Hu Xi
    Road
    Linyi Cn



    CONSIGNEE
    Overland Inc.d.b.a.
    Smithy Company 170 Aprill Drive
    Ann Arbor
    Arbor Mi 48103 Us

    NOTIFY PARTIES
    Expeditors International,11101
    Metro Airport Center Drive,building
    M2,suite 110
    Romulus Mi 48174 Us

    PACKAGING INFORMATION
    Weight : 10,473 KG Measurement : 28 CM
    Quantity : 56 PKG
    SHIPMENT DETAIL

    Carrier Code : FTPA Origin :
    Vessel Name : Sealand Charger U.S. Port : 2709 - Long Beach, California
    Voyage : 1008 Foreign Port : 57047 - Qingdao, China
    B/L : FTPAFQ04453 U.S. Dest :
    Pre Carrier : Qingdao Foreign Dest :
    Vessel Code : 9143001 Mode of Transport : 10
    Inbond Code : 00 Arrival Date : 2010-04-25
    COMMODITIES
    Container Qty Commodity Description
    MEDU2238201 56 Lathes, Horiz, Used/rebuilt Multi-purpose Machines
    MARKS & NUMBERS
    Container Marks & Numbers
    MEDU2238201 Smithy P.o.7791 Detroit No.1-3/1-2/1-2/1-16 Made In China

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    Is Smithy selling more machines than your company or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flatheadford49 View Post
    Is Smithy outselling you.
    Boy- this is an old thread to dig up. Not sure what your question is all about, but the sale of my old Quadra lift before getting a Patriot hardly compares to Smithy, who, based on the import data is selling used machines by the container load.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharpshooter90 View Post
    Boy- this is an old thread to dig up. Not sure what your question is all about, but the sale of my old Quadra lift before getting a Patriot hardly compares to Smithy, who, based on the import data is selling used machines by the container load.
    I didn't revive the thread, your compadre, one of the other Patriot owners did.
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    Thats interesting- there was another thread a while back in which someone claimed that Smithy was imported used/rebuilt machines. Did they sell it to you as used?

    here's the link
    ARE SMITHY MACHINES USED / REBUILT?"

    Why do you guys that own Patriots post a lot of negative crap on the Smithy forum. I don't understand, please explain. Thank You.

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    Quote Originally Posted by digitalmdi View Post
    On another thread, a guy says Smithy imports used /rebuilt machines. I couldn't find anything on their website about it. When I called, I sort of got a run-around and no answer. What gives?
    I don't believe you. Who did you talk to? I would like to talk to that person.

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