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  1. #1
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    Mikini troubleshoot (spindle suddenly stops)

    Hello my friends, I own a used Mikini 1610L (model 2008 "demo") and I would like to share experiences with you.
    I have had many troubles, in fact I still have (I would like to number all of them)...
    In details:
    1) The spindle stops, while drilling cycles (definitely not overload), sometimes it doesn't even rotates when I press the panel board button or use Mach 3, I have to turn off the machine then turn it on but having the PC on, that is how I temporary fix the problem and start to work.

    Most of the times it stops but XYZ axes are still moving.

    Have anyone happened?......

  2. #2
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    I have no idea but I imagine if you call Phil at Mikinimech he will help you.

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    Hello;
    I have called Phil, he says the problem is caused because of an overload to the spindle.
    But that is not my case, I am not cutting too deep nor fast.
    Has this happened to you?

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    Well no it hasn't because I don't own a Mikini machine yet but I hope you get it resolved.

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    Are you getting a spindle halt error on the manual control and have to shut down and reboot to resume?

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    For example:
    I start a peck drillning operation:
    Cobalt drill
    Diam: 1/4 "
    Speed: 917 rpm
    Feed speed: 25 mm/min
    Peck drill : 1 mm
    Hole dept: 23 mm

    This conditions are not too high to stop the spindle.
    The machine starts drilling moving Z axis up and down, then... the spindle stopsbut Z axis doesn't stop.
    I turn on manually the spindle using the the control board but nothing happens.
    I use Mach 3 to turn on the spindle but it doesn't work.
    If I want to turn on the spindle and resume the job I have to turn off the machine, then turn it on with the PC on, to use the spindle again.

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    The other problem is about the spindle real spindle speed and Mach 3 display speed, at low speeds <1000 rpm they are not equal.
    Mach 3 displays 1000rpm and the control displays 800rpm.

    Have you experienced this problem?

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    before I answer I want to know if you hear any alarm noise from when the spindle halts. Look at the manual control and see if there is a spindle halt flashing? Is the red light bulb illuminated on the light tree?
    Do you have the integrated control or using your own PC?


    I have had some problems with Mach3 and the Mikini but I would like to know if you problem is identical to mine.

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    I have the integrated controller from mikini, when it happens the alarm doesn't make noise and it does not active the e-stop, I got a problem when I imported the machine, the light tree got broken during the shipping but I will repear it soon (only the red light works), this light doesn't turn on either when the spindle stops.
    Is simple.... it just turns off, Niether Mach 3 nor the machine control give any alarm or know that it happened, indeed, the rpm display shows that is running!
    Is your problem similar to mine?

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    What are you drilling? If your drilling aluminum run that drill 3000, if steel run it 2000 assuming you are running coolant.

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    Nope, that is not like the problem I had. The spindle motor has a sensor on top of it and it just needed a slight adjustment.

    Sounds like you might have a loose connection somewhere.

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    This was the conclusion a friend gave me.
    Because my machine is used I have to check the wiring, most of the problems I have had a related to them.
    My friend is an electronics engineer and have some experience in CNC repairs, I will post the info when I fully check the cause of this problem because definiely it is a headache.
    HoweCNC when your spindle halts, don't you have to reset the machine again?

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    2000 rpm for tool steel is to high don't you think?
    I am using cobalt drills.

  14. #14
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    Yes when my spindle halts I have to reset the machine again. I have this problem resolved unless I put too much load a tool.

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    hi

    Did you get this sorted, my friend is haveig a similat problem.

    his macheen is this eBay - The UK's Online Marketplace

    the sparce info he did recive is in chinglish, with no settings for the spindle.

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