[Trier]

sorry - double post :X

[mactec54]

Hi,

I'm trying to use a Huanyang Chinese VFD to plug a Brother MD-813 on a single-plase installation ...I should have make some misconfigurations because the motor doesn't start.
The specs of this servmotor are here : https://www.google.fr/url?sa=t&rct=j...,d.d2s&cad=rja

Can someone tell me how to configure the VFD to make my motor work fine ?

Thanks a lot, I'm such in a mess with this...

You can not use a VFD to run your machine, a VFD can only run a 3 phase AC motor direct it can not power other parts of a machine like this, you need a static phase converter for what you want to do, make sure it has an amp rating greater than what you need

A VFD can be used, with some output filters Etc to give you an AC Sinusoidal Waveform to match normal power, but in most cases, you would have to also have a oscilloscope to get the waveform setup correct

[Trier]

Hi,
Thanks a lot for this answer.
The converter here : TEMCo XS0 Static Phase Converter PC0010 - HD 1/3 - 3/4 HP Mill Drill Saw MADE IN USA Single to three 5 Year Warranty: Tool Products: Amazon.com: Industrial & Scientific ...seems to convert single to three phase but only outpouts 240v (Input voltage: 208-240 / Output voltage: 208-240) ...What I need is 380V 3-phase for the Brother MD-813 to work fine, and I only have 240V single-phase in the house it's located. So I'm looking for a converter which inpouts 240V single-phase and outpouts 380V three-phase.
Is this kind of converter exists ?

Thanks again to help me.

[mactec54]

Hi,
Thanks a lot for this answer.
The converter here : TEMCo XS0 Static Phase Converter PC0010 - HD 1/3 - 3/4 HP Mill Drill Saw MADE IN USA Single to three 5 Year Warranty: Tool Products: Amazon.com: Industrial & Scientific ...seems to convert single to three phase but only outpouts 240v (Input voltage: 208-240 / Output voltage: 208-240) ...What I need is 380V 3-phase for the Brother MD-813 to work fine, and I only have 240V single-phase in the house it's located. So I'm looking for a converter which inpouts 240V single-phase and outpouts 380V three-phase.
Is this kind of converter exists ?

Thanks again to help me.

You would have to have a Transformer that can step up the 240v to the 380v, then your phase converter would have to be 380v single phase in 380v 3 phase out, this would be hard to find a 380v static phase converter to do this, and would cost a lot if you could find one

So you would have to have 240v single phase to 3 phase static converter, then a step up 3 phase transformer 240v to 380v 3 phase

So get a static phase converter 240v, at least twice the size that you need, and a 3 phase step up transformer 3 phase 240v to 380v

This company may be able to help you with the transformer, they have what is called a buck boster transformer that may work for you. Acme T-1-81062 Buck Boost Transformer AT1493 - 240x480 Primary 24/48 Secondary - 0.1 kVA - 60Hz - 1 Phase - NEMA 3R Encapsulated

[msharp]

Yet another need for help setting up a Huanyang VFD with a 1.5kw spindle. I didn't see my spindle's particular behavior anywhere in this thread.

I've already been through this thread from end to end. I've got the setup below. What I don't understand is why my speed is limited to 15600.
I've got a VFD with a builtin speed pot that happily varies the rpm from 7200 to 15600 (or 260hz). Has anyone got any thoughts on why I can't get to 24krpm/400hz? Is there a setting somewhere that may not be reset by PD013=08 that is providing a limiting factor?

FYI, yes, I've got a 400hz spindle. Yes, after factory reset I set PD005 then PD004 then PD003 then the rest. The order shown below is due to a cut/paste from an earlier posting in this thread. I also verified the settings by walking through all the registers after I'd completed setting them all.

--Mike

PD013= 08 is for Factory reset, Only use this to set VFD to Factory Default Settings

PD000=0 for Parameter unlock ( 1 ) for Parameter Lock
PD001=0 (1 For Remote Control)
PD002=0
PD003=400
PD004=400
PD005=400
PD007=20
PD008=220
PD011=120 (Minimum Setting 120)
PD009=15
PD010=8
PD014 Accel=12 ( Adjust to suit)
PD015 Deccl=12 (Adjust to suit) ( PD15 is ignored IF PD26=1 Then the Spindle will Coast to a Stop)
PD141=220 ( Motor Rated Voltage )
PD142=7 ( Motor Max Amps) (Set for your motor Amp Rating 2.2Kw Spindle 9 amp Max)
(Set for your motor Amp Rating 1.5Kw Spindle 7 amp Max)
PD143=2 ( Motor Number of Poles)
PD144=3000 (Max Motor RPM) =3,000= (24,000)
PD70=0
PD72=400
PD73=120

[mactec54]

msharp

This is normally fixed by doing a reset, there is a setting somewhere that is not correct,sometimes a factory reset does not reset correctly, make sure PD000=0 is set to Zero before doing a reset

Also post a photo of the input power wiring to the VFD just in case there is something not right with that part

[msharp]

msharp

This is normally fixed by doing a reset...,

I've done the reset and reentered all the parameters.
This lead to an interesting discovery. The built-in speed control pot, enabled by Pd002=1, only gives me 7200-15krpm. When I disable this (Pd002=0) the spindle will run up to 24krpm.

The VFD I'm using is model number HY01D523B.

I plan to control the speed via the RS-485 anyway. Hopefully I'll be able to get the full RPM range that way.

--Mike

[mactec54]

I've done the reset and reentered all the parameters.
This lead to an interesting discovery. The built-in speed control pot, enabled by Pd002=1, only gives me 7200-15krpm. When I disable this (Pd002=0) the spindle will run up to 24krpm.

The VFD I'm using is model number HY01D523B.

I plan to control the speed via the RS-485 anyway. Hopefully I'll be able to get the full RPM range that way.

--Mike

That normally should of been set to zero PD002=0 there is other settings related to that, when you go to remote the pot is not normally active, when PD002 is set to zero do the up/down arrows change the speed, they must have the pot wire in as remote control for that to work

You will need the special plugin to use the RS-485 this drives have a none standard connection

[Steve789]

Many thanks to everyone that contributed in these threads to get my spindle 2.2kw Air-cooled spindle
up and running and especially to the person that specified that PD011 needed to be set to >120hz for air cooled spindles.

Parameters that need to be changed on a VFD*BEFORE*you turn the spindle on!
Parameters need to be changed in a specific order, not simply P1, P2, P3, etc.
These settings are for a VFD with speed controller on the front panel.
VFD model No# HY02D223B
Air cooled 2.2kw spindle, AU.
These are the settings that work for me, yours may be totally different.
Note: PD011 must be set for >120hz with an air cooled spindle or the magic smoke will be released

First:

Change PD013 to 8 To do a Factory reset.
Change PD001 Source of Run Commands to '0'
Change PD002 Speed control source. Set to '1' for front panel knob.
Change PD005 Max operating frequency to 400hz
Change PD004 Base frequency to 400hz
Change PD003 Main frequency to 400hz
Change PD006 Intermediate frequency to 2.5hz
Change PD008 Max voltage to 220v
Change PD009 Intermediate voltage to 15v
Change PD010 Min voltage to 8
*Change PD011 frequency lower limit to >120hz A must for air cooled*
Change PD014 Set to 10. Acceleration time.
Change PD015 Set to 10. Deceleration time.
Change PD070 Speed control. Set to '1'
Change PD072 High end frequency. Set to 400hz
Change PD073 Low end frequency. Set to 120hz
Change PD141 Rated motor voltage. Set to 220v
Change PD142 rated motor current to 8 amp. See specifications on the side of the motor.
Change PD143 Motor pole number to 2
Change PD144 Rated motor revolution to 3000
Change PD145 Set to 2.5%. Torque at low RPM
Change PD151 Auto energy saving. Set to 2


Hope it helps someone. If anyone can suggest other settings or a correction it would be most welcome.

[DennisCNC]

Would like to hear from more people that have these VFD's running over few years.

I have not used one yet.

Thanks

[boydage]

Hi Dennis,

I have been using a 2.2kw aircooled spindle for several years now and am very happy with it. Sometimes it has been running for 7+ hours straight no problem.

My two cents.

Regards
Boyd

[Steve789]

Have been monitoring the temp of my Air cooled spindle for the last few months and it never goes over 5-6deg of the ambient temperature.

[ol-grey-beard]

Guys,
I have read through this thread in order to set up my vfd and have a problem not covered thus far. It is a VFD model No# HY02D223B 2.2kW (no pot fitted) for a water cooled spindle.

I did a factory reset as recommended here and now am unable to set Pd003/4/5 and 11 to anything greater than 50.00 all other parameters set in accordance with Mactec54's recommendations. Any ideas?

As I am here I might as well ask:

Is it ok to turn off the VFD at the supply or should it shut down from one of the front buttons?

Mactec54 says use 2 for the number of poles but the factory setting is 4 and the spindle was supplied by the same seller as the VFD so I am guessing it should be right.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[Steve789]

Hi.

Always turn the VFD off at the front panel first then when it displays 00000 it can be turned off at the supply. Something to
do with collapsing voltages and you run the risk of blowing your VFD.

[mactec54]

Guys,
I have read through this thread in order to set up my vfd and have a problem not covered thus far. It is a VFD model No# HY02D223B 2.2kW (no pot fitted) for a water cooled spindle.

I did a factory reset as recommended here and now am unable to set Pd003/4/5 and 11 to anything greater than 50.00 all other parameters set in accordance with Mactec54's recommendations. Any ideas?

As I am here I might as well ask:

Is it ok to turn off the VFD at the supply or should it shut down from one of the front buttons?

Mactec54 says use 2 for the number of poles but the factory setting is 4 and the spindle was supplied by the same seller as the VFD so I am guessing it should be right.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Your spindle motor is 2 Pole, don't even try to run your spindle if you have 50Hz settings, your spindle will only run on 400 Hz you will damage it if you don't set to the correct settings

Check the parameter lock, when you can't change a number you have the Parameter lock on

People who venture into VFD drives must remember, VFD Drives can be used for all types of AC motors not just the shiney spindle you have just brought, so setting a VFD Drive have to be set to the specs of the motor you have, not the factory Defaults you see

[mactec54]

Hi.

Always turn the VFD off at the front panel first then when it displays 00000 it can be turned off at the supply. Something to
do with collapsing voltages and you run the risk of blowing your VFD.
More info here but be cautious. Setting up a Huanyang VFD for a CNC router spindle — The Half-Baked Maker

I would not show this link to anyone, I know you said to be cautious, but that input wiring is a burn up for sure, You can't use a Neutral wire for 220v in NA on the VFD power input

[ol-grey-beard]

Thanks for the input guys.

I managed to sort out the settings, somehow. I did another couple of factory resets and went through all the parameters a couple of times and suddenly it worked. I swear it wouldn't budge over 50Hz now matter which buttons I pressed, then it worked. Very strange. Now set to 400 and 2 poles.
Now to sort out the water cooling and connect it to Mach.

Thanks again.

[keiner99]

Hello!
I have a problem with setting up my huanyang Inverter with my water cooled spindle (2,2kW, 220V, 400Hz, GDZ-80-2.2B). I have used the paramters of the post #32:

Huanyang Mactec54
PD000=0 for Parameter unlock ( 1 ) for Parameter Lock
PD001=0 (1 For Remote Control) --> I want to control it with mach3 (the inverter gets a signal from 0-10V
PD002=0
PD003=400
PD004=400
PD005=400
PD007=20
PD008=220
PD011=120 (Minimum Setting 120)
PD009=15
PD010=8
PD13= 08 is for Factory reset, Only use this to set VFD to Factory Default Settings
PD014 Accel=12 ( Adjust to suit)
PD015 Deccl=12 (Adjust to suit) ( PD15 is ignored IF PD26=1 Then the Spindle will Coast to a Stop)
PD141=220 ( Motor Rated Voltage )
PD142=9 ( Motor Max Amps) (Set for your motor Amp Rating 2.2Kw Spindle 9 amp Max)
(Set for your motor Amp Rating 1.5Kw Spindle 7 amp Max)
PD143=2 ( Motor Number of Poles)
PD144=3000 (Max Motor RPM) =3,000= (24,000)


from my break out board I can hear the relai and also get the 0-10V depending on the revolutions I specify in mach3. So the problem has to be at the inverter. Is the wiring of the inverter ok? (see attachment) Are the settings ok? What could be the problem?

Thanks in advance!

Franz

[mactec54]

Hello!
I have a problem with setting up my huanyang Inverter with my water cooled spindle (2,2kW, 220V, 400Hz, GDZ-80-2.2B). I have used the paramters of the post #32:

Huanyang Mactec54
PD000=0 for Parameter unlock ( 1 ) for Parameter Lock
PD001=0 (1 For Remote Control) --> I want to control it with mach3 (the inverter gets a signal from 0-10V
PD002=0
PD003=400
PD004=400
PD005=400
PD007=20
PD008=220
PD011=120 (Minimum Setting 120)
PD009=15
PD010=8
PD13= 08 is for Factory reset, Only use this to set VFD to Factory Default Settings
PD014 Accel=12 ( Adjust to suit)
PD015 Deccl=12 (Adjust to suit) ( PD15 is ignored IF PD26=1 Then the Spindle will Coast to a Stop)
PD141=220 ( Motor Rated Voltage )
PD142=9 ( Motor Max Amps) (Set for your motor Amp Rating 2.2Kw Spindle 9 amp Max)
(Set for your motor Amp Rating 1.5Kw Spindle 7 amp Max)
PD143=2 ( Motor Number of Poles)
PD144=3000 (Max Motor RPM) =3,000= (24,000)


from my break out board I can hear the relai and also get the 0-10V depending on the revolutions I specify in mach3. So the problem has to be at the inverter. Is the wiring of the inverter ok? (see attachment) Are the settings ok? What could be the problem?

Thanks in advance!

Franz

Yes you are missing a few wires, from your Breakout Board you need a relay to turn the spindle on/off

[keiner99]

Hello!
Thanks for your answer.

Due to that I am new in the CNC-sector I don't know which wires you thought about. Can you give me a more detailed answer? (Maybe a short 'circuit diagram')

Thank you in advance