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  1. #1
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    Unhappy shark jog ok but wont run program

    Gooday
    I have a shark cnc with mach3 software.
    I can jog/shuttle the 3 axis machine ok. This means
    Mach 3 communicates ok with the shark steppers.
    I cant get programs to run, ie drill 6 bolt wizard.

    I have even brought code over from another Hobby cnc/mach3
    system. The job runs ok on hobby cnc, and not at all on Shark.

    What am I doing wrong?

  2. #2
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    What happens when you press start?
    Gerry

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    http://www.thecncwoodworker.com/2010.html

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    http://www.g-forcecnc.com/jointcam.html

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  3. #3
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    after start

    The counter runs
    and the program steps two or three lines
    If I stop and tab the jog/shuttle, that still works so the program isnt locking up.

  4. #4
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    Can you post the line it stops on?
    Is there an error message?
    Gerry

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    http://www.thecncwoodworker.com/2010.html

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    http://www.g-forcecnc.com/jointcam.html

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  5. #5
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    not running

    There are no error messages.
    The emergency stop is not tripped

    The program is less than 200 lines long

    Can you recommend a simple wizard
    to generate foolproof code?
    I usually use drill circular bolt pattern.

    Thanks

  6. #6
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    Post the first 5 lines.
    Gerry

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    Mach3 2010 Screenset
    http://www.thecncwoodworker.com/2010.html

    JointCAM - CNC Dovetails & Box Joints
    http://www.g-forcecnc.com/jointcam.html

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  7. #7
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    five lines

    Sorry not back to machine till monday
    This is a copy of circular hole pattern tap
    One of the many files that doesnt run on the shark
    Thanks Peter

    G0 G49 G40 G17 G80 G50 G90
    M6 T15
    G21 (mm)
    M03 S600
    G90
    G00 G43 H15 Z0.10
    G73 X-4.6103 Y3.225 Z-0.50 Q0.20 R0.10 F5.00
    X-5 Y3.45
    X-5.3897 Y3.225
    X-5.3897 Y2.775
    X-5 Y2.55
    X-4.6103 Y2.775
    G80
    M5 M9
    M30

  8. #8
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    I wonder if it's an issue with the NCPod plugin? That is what you're using, correct?
    Gerry

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    http://www.g-forcecnc.com/jointcam.html

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  9. #9
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    ncpod

    Yes its an nc pod.
    I have the latest firmware upgrade
    2304m60

    IM getting jog interaction in the x y z planes, so basic pc/ncpod/machine interaction is happening.

    Have I missed something in the mach 3 setup windows?

    I am also running the shark basic panel with a different firmware upgrade and it all runs fine.

  10. #10
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    Never used a Shark or NC Pod.

    The Mach3 firmware is several years old, and I don't think it ever really got much farther than beta. Since they don't really sell NC Pods (and never have other than for beta testing), there's been no further development for them.
    Gerry

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    http://www.thecncwoodworker.com/2017.html

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    http://www.thecncwoodworker.com/2010.html

    JointCAM - CNC Dovetails & Box Joints
    http://www.g-forcecnc.com/jointcam.html

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  11. #11
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    next step

    So I think your telling me to give up on mach 3 with shark?

    If so then what do I use instead.
    Mach3 works ok with hobby cnc mill.

    What is four axis and will work with both?

  12. #12
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    does this run?

    Code:
    G0 G49 G40 G17 G80 G50 G90
    G21 (mm)
    M03
    G90
    G00 G43 H15 Z0.10
    G73 X-4.6103 Y3.225 Z-0.50 Q0.20 R0.10 F5.00
    X-5 Y3.45
    X-5.3897 Y3.225
    X-5.3897 Y2.775
    X-5 Y2.55
    X-4.6103 Y2.775
    G80
    M5
    M9
    M30
    %

  13. #13
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    mach3-shark

    Thanks for the code.
    Will try it out on monday.

    How many people are running Mach3 on a shark?
    A number bigger than one would be encouraging.
    Thanks.

  14. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by router101 View Post
    So I think your telling me to give up on mach 3 with shark?
    No, I'm just saying it's (ncpod) basically an unsupported device when running with Mach3. I don't know how many are using them.

    You could replace the ncpod with a smoothstepper, or just use a parallel port and breakout board.

    I don't even know if the ncpod is the problem, just a guess.
    Gerry

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    Mach3 2010 Screenset
    http://www.thecncwoodworker.com/2010.html

    JointCAM - CNC Dovetails & Box Joints
    http://www.g-forcecnc.com/jointcam.html

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  15. #15
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    code runs shark doesnt

    The code you sent runs from begining to end in 1:48.
    It doesnt drive the steppers nor the toolpath window update.
    Mach 3 seems to be running in virtual mode.
    Tab jog still works fine.
    I have reloaded the mach 3 software and nothing changes.
    Thanks

  16. #16
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    hmmmm - strange - I know NOTHING about the NCPod but after reading a few threads over on the Mach3 forum I'm not optimistic. Is Gerry's suggestion about using the prallel port with vanilla Mach not an option for you?

  17. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by router101 View Post
    I am also running the shark basic panel with a different firmware upgrade and it all runs fine.
    Probably grasping at straws here but it does say on the ncpod site that:

    The ncPod can also be used with a Basic Control Panel instead of Mach3. The Basic Control Panel uses a differentUSB driver that is incompatible with Mach3. Either Mach3 or the Basic Control Panel can be used, but not both. Do not install the Basic Control Panel if you are using Mach3.

  18. #18
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    Dual nc pod firmware

    The nice people from nc pod actually rewrote the mach3 driver to get it to work with the shark.
    I have two different ncpod firmware drivers, one for mach3 one for basic control panel.

    Jog and shuttle x,y,z motors drive ok using mach3 so there is plenty of communication between the software and the motors.

    Any other ideas?

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