[harley4ever]

Do you code manually code, use a CAD/CAM software or both?

[Geof]

There are already two polls on this topic:

http://www.cnczone.com/forums/polls/..._cad_code.html

http://www.cnczone.com/forums/polls/...de_vs_cam.html

Also polls are supposed to be in the Poll forum.

[joejared]

I manually code, but it's not g-code. G-code machines are a bit antiquated and awkward from my perspective and actually more difficult for my customers to use.

[custombald]

There are already two polls on this topic:

http://www.cnczone.com/forums/polls/..._cad_code.html

http://www.cnczone.com/forums/polls/...de_vs_cam.html

Also polls are supposed to be in the Poll forum.

New to code programming, they say cam easier (looks easy to me but still I'm autocad illiterate & need to solve that along the way). Hand code input looks tedious but my boss practice this for 20 yrs already. his program are combination of g-codes & instructions that make the machine obey which is neither g-code nor anything std. Example - when cutting diameter he will write line & line of program for every cut instead of using G-code that automatically cut the material until desired diameter. setback - error when programing the input eg previos cycle cut diameter are wrongly input for the next cut thus make the machine cut more or less than required.But his way look easier for me to understand.

[custombald]

I manually code, but it's not g-code. G-code machines are a bit antiquated and awkward from my perspective and actually more difficult for my customers to use.

manually code? & not G-code. explain more/example coz I'm new.

[joejared]

manually code? & not G-code. explain more/example coz I'm new.

Back in 2006, I took on a project to build my own CNC. As all of the components were made by hand, I learned a considerable amount about what I could and couldn't do, and ultimately wrote a new language more in line with what a machinist would understand.


[nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1lYqpTKx-Q"]YouTube - ‪OreTek MicroMill - Manufacturing Pegasus RadScan ctrack1p‬‏[/nomedia]

Here's the code:
---
jog 250
tool 1 0.125 0.0347
tool 2 0.25 0.0213
tool 3 0.1016 0.051
tool 4 0.075 0.0721
dinc 0.075
rstep 0.010
ipb 0.005
xystep 0.050
minvel 60
acc0 $1000
clearance 0.1


tc
vel 250
prompt install 1/4 endmill S3 (casetup should be run once per batch.)
proxy 1
tool 1
tc
move 0.5,0.5,1.0,0
vel 150
spindle 1
acc0 $7ffff
bore 0.5,0.5,0.0,0 1.05,0 0.625,0.625 90,270
vel 100
bore 1.000,0.5,0.0,0 0.5,0 0.0625,0.0625
bore 4.000,0.5,0.0,0 0.5,0 0.0625,0.0625
vel 150
bore 0.5,0.5,0.0,0 1.050,0 0.122,0.122
bore 4.5,0.5,0.0,0 1.050,0 0.122,0.122
bore 4.5,0.5,0.0,0 1.05,0 0.625,0.625 -90,90
acc0 $1000
vel 200
facep1p2 2.813,1.0,0.0,0 3.813,1.0,0.0,0 0.75,0
spindle 0
tc
vel 250
prompt install 13/64 drill s1
proxy 1
tool 3
tc
move 1,0.5,1,0
vel 140
spindle 1
drill 1,0.5,0.0,0 1.1,1.1 3.000,2 0.000,1
spindle 0
tc
---

[Autumn]

Both, I find that for simple parts mostly in 2D space that hand erupting is faster and I have more control over the tool. How ever when I start doing arcs in 3D 3 vector I need a CAM, the math involed make ones head hurt. So learn Word Address or on the motion contral languages and use your CAM to write in that language. Then when you need to edit you can do it directly to the program.

[custombald]

Back in 2006, I took on a project to build my own CNC. As all of the components were made by hand, I learned a considerable amount about what I could and couldn't do, and ultimately wrote a new language more in line with what a machinist would understand.


YouTube - ‪OreTek MicroMill - Manufacturing Pegasus RadScan ctrack1p‬‏

Here's the code:
---
jog 250
tool 1 0.125 0.0347
tool 2 0.25 0.0213
tool 3 0.1016 0.051
tool 4 0.075 0.0721
dinc 0.075
rstep 0.010
ipb 0.005
xystep 0.050
minvel 60
acc0 $1000
clearance 0.1


tc
vel 250
prompt install 1/4 endmill S3 (casetup should be run once per batch.)
proxy 1
tool 1
tc
move 0.5,0.5,1.0,0
vel 150
spindle 1
acc0 $7ffff
bore 0.5,0.5,0.0,0 1.05,0 0.625,0.625 90,270
vel 100
bore 1.000,0.5,0.0,0 0.5,0 0.0625,0.0625
bore 4.000,0.5,0.0,0 0.5,0 0.0625,0.0625
vel 150
bore 0.5,0.5,0.0,0 1.050,0 0.122,0.122
bore 4.5,0.5,0.0,0 1.050,0 0.122,0.122
bore 4.5,0.5,0.0,0 1.05,0 0.625,0.625 -90,90
acc0 $1000
vel 200
facep1p2 2.813,1.0,0.0,0 3.813,1.0,0.0,0 0.75,0
spindle 0
tc
vel 250
prompt install 13/64 drill s1
proxy 1
tool 3
tc
move 1,0.5,1,0
vel 140
spindle 1
drill 1,0.5,0.0,0 1.1,1.1 3.000,2 0.000,1
spindle 0
tc
---

hi,
do your language may apply to my mori (fanuc controller). jthere seems to be lots of digit at single glance but this another option to consider TQ

[Acustical]

Hi, Greetings from Colombia.

We have a Mazak Quick Slant 20 CNC Lathe.

We would like to change Mazatrol control - T4 on the other a little more modern that would speed up the process of turning.

Anyone know anything?

Thanks

[joejared]

hi,
do your language may apply to my mori (fanuc controller). jthere seems to be lots of digit at single glance but this another option to consider TQ

My interface currently only supports the Lm628/629 code for Techno machines. I've yet to try interfacing to anything other than Acroloop and Techno machines, although I do plan to port the output into G-code for some of my customers. Several new commands have been added since my original approach, including the ability to create gears.

[Bill Buzzell]

Imagine an "object oriented" approach to programming, where you pick "components" from a button bar. The components are self contained pieces of code that perform a specific task and wrapped inside an interface. You would have "primitives" such as a circles, lines, arcs, etc. which are used internally to construct compound objects, which know how to express themselves in G-code.

You should see "Grasshopper" for Rhinos interface concept. It is really cool once you get it. It is like the combination of both worlds...the old fashioned, by hand and spreadsheet, the other is "programming" visually by linking inputs like wiring a stereo system, or like connecting an array of audio effects.

It is an interface issue. When you create a box in your CAD program that box should already have the ability to draw itself to G-code, as well as to the screen and printer instead of having to sift data from your CAD app and convert to G-code.

Here goes Rhino simulating a foam cutter.
Rhino Grasshopper Simulate Foamlinx Fx2912 cnc Foam Cutter - YouTube

[gtjoecobra1993]

I do alot of both nowadays myself,but i was taught by master tool n die makers back in the mid 80s all manual programming.Back in the binary code tape days.And computers maintained or not,when you have cam software/computer problems and when all your guys/gals only know master cam and nobody can manually program in your shop,well your basically ......you know what.I find any cam program,be it bobcam,mastercam newdnc pros,i dont care what they use they always fill the job with unnecessary movements/lines of code for sweet nothing.