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  1. #1
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    SolidCam & Haas: FANUC vs HAAS 3m

    I just acquired my first real CNC machine, a Haas VF1 and the SolidCAM software to help program it.

    I have been using the FANUC processor and have the machine configured for Fanuc control, but I am wondering if there is an advantage to switching the machine over to haas control and using a different built in post processor, say the "gmilling_Haas_3x"?

    So far the limiting factors are more myself and the learning curve vs the machine, but I don't want to waste time learning and relearning if there is a clear reason to go one direction or the other.

  2. #2
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    Apr 2006
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    Can't say anything about running the HAAS machine as a HAAS machine as I don't have one to play with... But as for using the HAAS post processor in SolidCAM and thinking that you need to relearn anything is incorrect.
    You only need to change posts to get any output from SolidCAM formatted to suit the target machine. How you use SolidCAM is still the same, it is only the selection of the post at the start of the programming process that is different. Select the HAAS post and carry on as per normal.

  3. #3
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    Call support and have them make your haas post look like this sample program of mine. number lines are optional. I use them if I need to start and stop in a very large 3d program.
    I cut all the crap out of my post.

    %
    O02602
    (FINISH 2602)
    N1 G90 G17 G40 G80 G00
    N100 (spot drill)
    N102 M06 T34
    N104 G00 G54 G90 X1.5 Y-1.5 S3000 M03
    N106 G43 H34 Z2. M08
    N108 Z0.25
    N110 G98 G81 Z-0.02 R0.1 F6.
    N112 Y1.5
    N114 X-1.5
    N116 Y-1.5
    N118 G80
    N120 M09
    N122 M05
    N124 G00 G28 G91 Z0
    N126 M01
    N2
    N128 (.406 Drill)
    N130 M06 T15
    N132 G00 G54 G90 X1.5 Y-1.5 S753 M03
    N134 G43 H15 Z2. M08
    N136 Z0.25
    N138 G98 G83 Z-0.5141 R0.1 Q0.1 F3.0106
    N140 Y1.5
    N142 X-1.5
    N144 Y-1.5
    N146 G80
    N148 M09
    N150 M05
    N152 G00 G28 G91 Z0
    N154 M01
    N3
    N156 (1/2 em standard)
    N158 M06 T17
    N160 G00 G54 G90 X2.2475 Y-1.9161 S1146 M03
    N162 G43 H17 Z2. M08
    N164 Z0.25
    N166 Z0.1
    N168 G01 Z-0.15 F2.292
    N170 X1.9161 Y-2.2475 F6.875
    N172 G00 Z0.25
    N174 X2.2475 Y-1.9161
    N176 Z-0.05
    N178 G01 Z-0.3 F2.292
    N180 X1.9161 Y-2.2475 F6.875
    N182 G00 Z0.25
    N184 X2.2475 Y-1.9161
    N186 Z-0.2
    N188 G01 Z-0.39 F2.292
    N190 X1.9161 Y-2.2475 F6.875
    N192 S1146
    N194 G00 Z0.25
    N196 Y2.2475
    N198 Z0.1
    N200 G01 Z-0.15 F2.292
    N202 X2.2475 Y1.9161 F6.875
    N204 G00 Z0.25
    N206 X1.9161 Y2.2475
    N208 Z-0.05
    N210 G01 Z-0.3 F2.292
    N212 X2.2475 Y1.9161 F6.875
    N214 G00 Z0.25
    N216 X1.9161 Y2.2475
    N218 Z-0.2
    N220 G01 Z-0.39 F2.292
    N222 X2.2475 Y1.9161 F6.875
    N224 S1146
    N226 G00 Z0.25
    N228 X-2.2475
    N230 Z0.1
    N232 G01 Z-0.15 F2.292
    N234 X-1.9161 Y2.2475 F6.875
    N236 G00 Z0.25
    N238 X-2.2475 Y1.9161
    N240 Z-0.05
    N242 G01 Z-0.3 F2.292
    N244 X-1.9161 Y2.2475 F6.875
    N246 G00 Z0.25
    N248 X-2.2475 Y1.9161
    N250 Z-0.2
    N252 G01 Z-0.39 F2.292
    N254 X-1.9161 Y2.2475 F6.875
    N256 S1146
    N258 G00 Z0.25
    N260 Y-2.2475
    N262 Z0.1
    N264 G01 Z-0.15 F2.292
    N266 X-2.2475 Y-1.9161 F6.875
    N268 G00 Z0.25
    N270 X-1.9161 Y-2.2475
    N272 Z-0.05
    N274 G01 Z-0.3 F2.292
    N276 X-2.2475 Y-1.9161 F6.875
    N278 G00 Z0.25
    N280 X-1.9161 Y-2.2475
    N282 Z-0.2
    N284 G01 Z-0.39 F2.292
    N286 X-2.2475 Y-1.9161 F6.875
    N288 G00 Z0.25
    N290 M09
    N292 M05
    N294 G00 G28 G91 Z0
    N296 G00 G28 G91 Y0
    N298 G90
    N300 M30
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  4. #4
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    So I spoke to support this morning; they were friendly & helpful; I think I got a call about 10minutes after I sent an email.

    In the end, I switched the machine from fanuc style control to haas (it has three options) and switched my default processor to the built in "gMilling_Haas_3x."

    I modified it to limit the significant digits to 3 for mm and changed the machine profile to increase the spindle speed max and specify the coolant type.

    Using the fanuc I was having to edit the gcode to do a find and replace to change things like feeds from "F100" to "F100." which was getting annoying.

    This took care of that and I cut a part today just plugging in the pen drive, setting the offsets, and letting it go to town.

  5. #5
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    Isn't it a great feeling when things just work?
    Glad to read that you have got it all working the way you want.

  6. #6
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    Nov 2007
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    I have one Fadal with Fanuc control and one Haas VF2.

    I started with the Fanuc and used the generic Fanuc gpp file, but over time changed it quite a bit.

    Then I got a Haas, and initially used the Fanuc gpp file with a couple of very simple mods and got things moving within an hour or so.

    Now the Fanuc and Haas posts are quite different, basically because I have each gpp file sort of tuned to take advantage of the different capabilities of the two machines.

    You'll find that in no time you'll be into the gpp and mac files, messing around so that you can get your posts to do exactly what you want.

    There's lots of guys on this forum who have much deeper knowledge than me, but as long as you just mess around with a COPY of a known working file then you can play all day and night.

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