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  1. #1
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    Exclamation CNC Lathe Construction question

    Hi,
    I posted earlier look for a solution to a chuck, it isn't quite solved yet but thats alright. I am now on a different problem/ question.

    I have this contactor what is a cnc contactor and I am wondering how I use it to control the spindal motor. I am using steppers to move the tail stock and the tooling. The spindal is a DC motor out of a blower and it would be very cool if I could use this contactor some how to control the motor.
    Is it something I can use with pokeys or phidgets?

    Thanks for any help.

    Rob from what is a cnc

    My contactor is found at what is a cnc contactor and there is a link on the page to one for sale on the page.

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    The contactor you show is primarily used for 3ph AC control, DC requires some special arc shields and contacts, normally you control the spindle motor through a controller of some kind? or are you operating this motor full on?
    Do you need reversing feature?
    Al.
    CNC, Mechatronics Integration and Custom Machine Design

    “Logic will get you from A to B. Imagination will take you everywhere.”
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    I use a contactor (same brand) in my powder coating oven 220v 1phase and its really loud! I think you would burn it out trying to control a motor or drive you nuts before it burned out. At minimum get a SSR with a heat sink.

    Maybe use that in conjunction with the Super PID and have it trigger the SSR...

    keep the contactor to be your main power switch to the machine

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    Quote Originally Posted by vtx1029 View Post
    Maybe use that in conjunction with the Super PID and have it trigger the SSR...
    The OP mentions a DC spindle, the PID is for a universal motor.
    It all depends on the nature of the spindle control?
    Al.
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    “Logic will get you from A to B. Imagination will take you everywhere.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by Al_The_Man View Post
    The OP mentions a DC spindle, the PID is for a universal motor.
    It all depends on the nature of the spindle control?
    Al.
    oops I miss that.

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    Hi,
    Thanks for all your help.
    I suppose I am better off just leaving things the way they are for now, I don't need to control the spindal and if I do I will just change the motor to a stepper.
    I just figured I could use the contact block for something, it has been sitting around for a while now.
    Al what do you mean by a "universal motor"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by crob09 View Post
    Al what do you mean by a "universal motor"?
    A search will show several hits, Universal motor, field in series with the armature, will run on ac/dc, rpm limited by friction.
    Most hand tools, vacuum cleaners, routers.
    Al.
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    “Logic will get you from A to B. Imagination will take you everywhere.”
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    Talking

    Thanks!

    So there is a chance this is a Universal motor, it came out of a blower. We used it in a playground "Ballocity" unit until a child threw a rock in it and destroyed the fan.
    I will upload a few pictures to the forum along with any numbers found on the motor when I get home and settled tonight.

    Again thanks for your help and time, your a very knowledgable person!

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    Smile

    Also I may need to buy you a beer later tonight! I just noticed the option and you deserve it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crob09 View Post
    Thanks!

    So there is a chance this is a Universal motor, it came out of a blower.
    Very possible, I assume you thought it DC because of the brushes Maybe?
    Thanks.
    Al.
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    “Logic will get you from A to B. Imagination will take you everywhere.”
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    Yes the stator is a magnet and the armature is magnetized threw the brushed. I also figured the capacitor attached acts as a rectifier.

    Now on to buying you that beer!

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