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  1. #1
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    I got a new to me Mycenter 4

    I got a 85 Mycenter 4 back in October and have finally gotten around to setting it up. I am assuming the machine is 220v 60hz since its been used in America since new. My second question is wiring. I have to run about 150 feet of wire but I'm not 100% sure what the power requirements are for the machine. I'm doing all of this from savings so the plan is to just have an electrician do a look over instead of having him mess around with running cable all.day.

    Thanks,
    Grant

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    Should be a KVA rating on the name plate of the enclosure door.

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    Awesome, thank you very much. Now I can really get into trouble!

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    Wasn't able to find any labels with power ratings besides the plate with the HP ratings and work envelope. I did notice that the power feed went into a 100 amp breaker so I will make sure to get cable that's rated for that. Also figured out I do have 3 phase power to the building so that's nice.

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    I got the machine all wired up and it turns on but im having a few issues and i keep finding dead ends.

    First Alarm is EX04 Fuse Open Alarm (Power Panel). The only fuses i see back there are in the top left corner behind a computer board. I ohm'd them all out and all got 0ohms. As i type this i remember there being two more in the top right corner so i will test those soon.

    Next alarm is EX06 Emergency Stop. I have no idea about this one, the stop button is reset so im ASSUMING it has something to do with EXO4 but i have no idea. All of the fluids are topped off minus coolant.


    Im also getting EX08 spindle stop. Again im not sure about this one. I can't find much in the book about this or what causes this. I didn't have this issue until i got the air hooked up.

    I set up an appointment for the Kitamura repairman to come out but he is booked until the 23rd.

    Thanks for any help,
    Grant

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    I am making progress at a snails pace.

    I even made a crappy little video that may help or not.

    While i was messing around i noticed how the majority of the switches and buttons did nothing so i pulled the panel below the screen and one of the large connectors came lose and all of the switches now light up when you turn them on. I also lost the EX06 emergency stop alarm when this got resolved.

    So i noticed when i flip the little breaker next to the main breaker some things changed. 3 of the lit up relays(it was originally only 1) turn off and a red light on a board on the back wall turns off too. I also loose alarm EX04 (fuse open alarm) and gain EX06 (emergency stop), and EX11 (2nd limit switch working). This probably means nothing to anybody but oh well.



    Another thing i noticed in the bottom right corner of the screen it says
    ***** JOG RESET *****[EMG]******* LMK
    /\ im assuming i have to get this over to jog reset to make it move?

    I'd appreciate any feedback.

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    Emg is holding you back.

    Check phase rotation, especially if it has a hydraulic unit

    Air pressure

    And make sure there are either no door switches, or they are bypassed, especially on the cabinet with the tape reader.

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    Quote Originally Posted by underthetire View Post
    Emg is holding you back.

    Check phase rotation, especially if it has a hydraulic unit

    Air pressure

    And make sure there are either no door switches, or they are bypassed, especially on the cabinet with the tape reader.
    Phase rotation as in the 3 phases of power coming to the machine? If i switch 2 of the wires something will either get worse or better i take it? I measured a consistent 246.5V on all 3 phases plus or minus .1 volt. Could this be to high?

    Air pressure is good and set at 90psi as per the manual. (thats one of the few parts i could understand!)

    I will double check the door switches with the ohm meter.

    Thanks to you and Mike! Hopefully i will get this sorted soon enough.

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    Can't hurt to try, unless you have a stinger leg, be carefully what leg you put that on.

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    Oh, thank you so much! Machine got alot louder its obvious more things are turning now.

    Still have the Spindle Stop alarm but i think im alot closer now.

    The bottom right corner now says

    ***** JOG STOP *********** LMK [ALM] <in flashing red

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    Oh, thank you so much! Machine got alot louder its obvious more things are turning now.

    Still have the Spindle Stop alarm but i think im alot closer now.

    The bottom right corner now says

    ***** JOG STOP *********** LMK [ALM] <in flashing red

    Hopefully i can get this sorted on Thursday, have class all day tomorrow.

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    Oh, thank you so much! Machine got alot louder its obvious more things are turning now.

    Still have the Spindle Stop alarm but i think im alot closer now.

    The bottom right corner now says

    ***** JOG STOP *********** LMK [ALM] <in flashing red

    Hopefully i can get this resolved Thursday, now i don't want to go to class tomorrow lol.

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    It works now, got it to move around last thursday. Thanks to everyone who gave me pointers. I really appreciate it! Still have some small issues but i will work those out i think. Now i just have to teach myself how to program this bad boy.

    Thanks!

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