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  1. #21
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    I think Dan is using the 7310 Porter Cable on HobbyToolPlans.com. Thats probably the one I'll pickup.

  2. #22
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    Btw, I am getting about 30 IPM on my machine. How does that sound?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WarrenW
    Btw, I am getting about 30 IPM on my machine. How does that sound?
    First, I just found this thread today and I'm impressed with how fast you're getting everything together!

    30 IPM is pretty impressive for those little xylotex motors!! I'm using the same stepper motor/ driver kit that you have to drive a test fixture. When I read your first post in this thread, I started to worry they wouldn't be powerful enough. And then I caught up to your latest post -- 30 IPM!

    I have the 0690 router, but haven't installed it on a machine yet. Unless you're going to run 600IPM, the routers you're looking at will hardly strain to cut 1/8" birch!

  4. #24
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    30ipm is pretty slow, and iseally you'll want a slower spindle speed to prevent or minimize burning. Slower speeds are much quieter, too. Here's a pretty good deal for a variable speed router with good power. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...lance&n=228013
    Gerry

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  5. #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by joe2000che
    This is a funny coincidence!

    I went to Lowe's today to get material to hook up my new HF dust collector and stopped by the Sears repair/recondition outlet and snagged a similar router for $29.88. 2 hp and VS with dust port. Knew it was good...just didn't know how good.
    Steve
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  6. #26
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    Anyone ever tried one of those Hitachi routers? Price seems to good to be true. But they are a reputable company.


    I just got one of these Bosch recons. 2 1/4hp, quiet, variable speed, magnesium case, 1/2" collet. I really like it.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Bosch-Variable-S...QQcmdZViewItem

    Steve

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    You can do far better than 30 ipm with the xylotex and those steppers. I rapid at 80 (over 100 on the diagonal) with 24V supply and 3/8-12 acme leadscrews with the xylotex board and 128 oz in steppers. What software are you using, mach 2 and 3 is what I am using.
    colin

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    I'm using Mach 3. 30 IPM seems okay for me but I'll know when I actually start cutting this week. I have my xylotex set to 3.5V for each axis so I can't increase that anymore. It may be a setting in the software to tune it for faster movement. Anything that is faster and more precise than using a scroll saw is good to me!

    As far as routers, I didn't know you could mount a larger router like these mentioned above on the setup. I'll probably stick with the porter cable 7310 just for cutting 1'8 inch birch. The great thing about Home Depot is you can always return!

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    What type of bit is used for cutting in wood like cutting through 1/8" birch sheets?

    Thanks!

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    I just got back. The only router I really liked was one of the Porter Cables but it was alot of money. I decided against the trimmers and your right on the variable speed. I don't want to burn the wood. I found a Hitachi 2-1/4 HP router at Lowes for $115 and its variable speed. So I got that one.

    I wasn't sure what bit to get so I got a straight cut 3/16" bit at Sears. I'll let ya know how it goes.

    Warren

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    Quote Originally Posted by WarrenW
    I just got back. The only router I really liked was one of the Porter Cables but it was alot of money. I decided against the trimmers and your right on the variable speed. I don't want to burn the wood. I found a Hitachi 2-1/4 HP router at Lowes for $115 and its variable speed. So I got that one.

    I wasn't sure what bit to get so I got a straight cut 3/16" bit at Sears. I'll let ya know how it goes.

    Warren
    Do you have the model number i want to check it out Hitachi is a descent brand. Going to buy a router today.

    Joe

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    You can go to Lowes.com and enter: hitachi router

    And this is one of them:

    Hitachi
    Variable Speed Fixed Base Router

    Item #: 118359 Model: M12VC
    $114.00

    I liked that once I took the base off, it looked like it would be easy to mount also.

    More specs from the site:

    Powerful 11 Amp, 2-1/4 HP motor to cut through tough hardwoods
    2-stage motor release clamp for accurate depth adjustments and base changes
    Electronic speed control maintains constant RPMs even as load varies
    Nickel plated motor housing for smooth depth adjustments


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    Horsepower: 2-1/4
    Amps: 11
    No-Load Speed (RPM): 8,000 - 24,000
    Depth Capability: 2.6"
    Type: Fixed
    Max Collet Capacity: 1/2" and 1/4"
    Weight: 7.3 lbs.

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    Also, it was in a regular brown box so it doesn't jump out when you look below for one in the box. I almost missed it thinking they were out of them.

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    I called and the lowes by my house has 6 in stock, so guess where i'm going after work, I like it because of the 11amps and down to 8,000 rpm.

  15. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by spalm
    Anyone ever tried one of those Hitachi routers? Price seems to good to be true. But they are a reputable company.
    I know someone with an older Hitachi 3HP plunge router, and he says it's a great router.
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    Warren, Make sure you use carbide bits, HSS won't last long at all. I buy a lot of bits from Eagle America.
    http://www.eagleamerica.com/product.asp_Q_pn_E_102-0102

    Spiral bits will cut faster and quieter.
    http://www.eagleamerica.com/product.asp_Q_pn_E_106-0202
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  17. #37
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    Hey Joe, did you pickup that router? Or choose another? I just made the mount for the router. Like many of them, I like the smooth round case of the router once the base is removed - makes it easy for mouting. I went to bolt mine on today but the bolts I have are 1/2" too short so it will have to wait till tomorrow since no one is open on Christmas. Thats alright anyways... I'm so tired from opening and putting together all my kid's presents Santa brought them!

    Warren

  18. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by WarrenW
    Hey Joe, did you pickup that router? Or choose another? I just made the mount for the router. Like many of them, I like the smooth round case of the router once the base is removed - makes it easy for mouting. I went to bolt mine on today but the bolts I have are 1/2" too short so it will have to wait till tomorrow since no one is open on Christmas. Thats alright anyways... I'm so tired from opening and putting together all my kid's presents Santa brought them!

    Warren
    Yes I got it, Looks like it will work very well, thanks again, At 8,000 prm it is super quiet, and full speed 24,000rpm it is slightly queter than my rotozip.

    Do you have pictures of you mounts?

    http://www.cnczone.com/forums/showth...300#post124300

  19. #39
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    I got my router mounted and made my first cut today! I ran the circular pocket wizard in Mach 3 that cut both these holds shown below.

    I have to find a better way to hold down the wood so the gantry does not hit anything. I don't want to put a bottom sheet under because all of my work will be cutting through 1/8" birch and other wood.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails cut1.jpg   cut2.jpg   cut3.jpg   cut4.jpg  


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    Congradulations

    Warren,

    Congradulations on getting it working. It appears as though you did an excellent job!!!

    Dan
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