[LouF]

Hi, anyone have any staining techniques for baltic birch what I am trying to do is eliminate blotching I have heard of conditioning but not sure how to apply it to BB plywood.



Lou

[ger21]

I much prefer water soluble aniline dyes. Tons of available colors, dries in minutes, and no blotchiness. Just nice, even color.

[LouF]

Gerry thanks will try that going to Home Depot later today and see what they have in stock..



Lou

[wendtmk]

Dunno if you'll find it at Home Despot. I get mine from Woodcraft. Look for the brand name "TransTint."

Mark

[ger21]

They don't carry it at Home Depot. If you have a Woodcraft near you, they may stock some colors.
It comes as a powder that you mix yourself with distilled water.

I buy most of mine from Woodworker's Supply Woodworking | Woodworking Tools | Woodworking Hardware | Woodworker's Supply

Gerry

[LouF]

There are no Woodcraft close to me about 160 mile round trip. I wonder if Rockler would have it there about 35 miles from me...


Lou

[LouF]

This the product to use?

TransTint® Dyes - Rockler Woodworking Tools


Lou

[ger21]

Not exactly the same, but similar. Never used TransTint, but they are supposed to be very good.

[LouF]

The reviews on there web site are good I may take a run down there later this week..


Lou

[wendtmk]

I've been using the liquid TransTint for years to dye bamboo to match older bamboo for repairs on bamboo fly rods. The stuff works great and is fairly easy to work with. I thin with DNA. I haven't used it on regular wood like Jerry has, so your mileage may vary from my results.

Mark

[LouF]

Mark thanks..


Lou

[bobsch]

As with any finish, I'd try it on a piece of scrap first to check the color.

[dminnery]

You may also want to do some research on stains and dyes, they work very differently. I've used both and they can be used together with great results.
There was just an article in Fine Woodworking about using shellac as a conditioner, IIRC.
I too like transtint dyes, Watco makes very good stains and I like minwax wipe on poly for a final sealer.

[wendtmk]

As with any finish, I'd try it on a piece of scrap first to check the color.

Yup. I've got a number of bamboo scraps dyed with a lot number written on them that goes to the formula for the color recorded in my log book.

Mark

[BanduraMaker]

I've never had good luck using any sorts of dyes (or pigments) directly on bare wood. There are a couple things you can do:

As someone mentioned, there's something called "wood conditioner" that should help uneven absorption. If you google hide glue sizing you can find how you can make your own as well. I've not tried it myself but I've heard pretty good things about hide glue sizing when used with wipe on dyes or stains.

The other option is to seal the wood entirely with something like shellac and then apply the dyes (dissolved in your finish) over the sealer. Rub with this is that you pretty much need spray equipment to do this.

The good news is that a $15 door jamb gun does a mighty fine job with this. I usually spray my color (transtint dyes) in Target WB finishes using either a door jamb gun for large areas or an airbrush for smaller areas and it works out very nicely.

[LouF]

Thanks for the help guys I have a spray gun, small touch up gun and a airbrush.
I was reading this article in Popular Wood working Magazine it talks about different ways to help prevent blotching experts talking about Wood Conditioner types when to apply..

Wood Conditioner Confusion | Popular Woodworking Magazine



Lou