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  1. #1
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    Mar 2012
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    Losing position(and mind) a little at a time

    Hello All-

    Been doing my best to work my machines problems out but this one kind of has me stumped.

    I am radius profiling 2 sides a 2" thick piece in z with multiple passes in x stepping y over in .01 increments to obtain a smooth curve.

    The problem i am having is that as the cutter works across y it isnt square to x.
    The opposite end is parallel to it but it is out approx. .625 in 14" Granted that only works out to about .0002 per pass(3100 passes)...but i cant for the life of me figure out why its doing it or how to solve it.
    I started in cv mode for speed, switched to exact stop mode-no difference
    set my speed to half and accel to a crawl- no difference.

    I could accept it being lost steps if it didnt do exactly the same thing every time, and it didnt cut a perfect parallelogram.


    the code was generated from sketchup through freemill but it is a pretty basic program length aside.


    ive cut the piece 3 times and the exact same problem every time.

    Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

    Dave

  2. #2
    Join Date
    May 2010
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    I had a similar problem at one time which turned out to be a slow optocoupler on the breakout board I was using. I did a lot of raster work, and every direction change it would lose a step.....resulting in some parallelogram type crapola, too.

    It took a hell of a long time to figure out, and I never would have on my own. Steve Stallings from PMDX helped me out a bunch on that one......and it wasn't even one of his breakout boards. Very nice guy.

    I replaced the BOB with a PMDX 122, and all was well for me.

    I sold the machine to someone else, and a similar problem reared its ugly head after switching computers.

    He eventually figured out he wasn't getting a very good pulse output via the parallel port on his computer and put in a smoothstepper to solve the issue.....which it did. I know quite a few people that have had this same trouble as well.

    I wish you luck tracking it down.....it can sure be frustrating.

    I have abandoned parallel port and am using KFLOP on everything now. Absolutely no troubles on several machines.....and one of them is a crazy accurate cylindrical grinder (StuderS35) that needs to periodically hold .00005" in diameter. Most often it only needs to hold .0002" or so......but KFLOP is always rock solid.

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
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    This may be exactly what I have been chasing for a while

    I have several jobs that mill circle shapes

    After cutting several circles the X axis will be out .005 and it keeps getting worse as the job goes on.

    The X axis always goes out in the X+ direction

    I have been having to stop, reset X to zero and then continue again

    The Y and Z axis are always right on zero
    It's not my motors, or driver boards
    The X axis is a ball screw and there is no bearing slop

    Len at Probotix suggested I uninstall Mach3 and then delete all the left over files in the Mach3 folder (except for the mach3Mill.xml and license file

    Reboot and then re-install mach3

    I am running back to back jobs (cutting air) to test it today.
    After a bunch of repeating the same job that gave me fits before, the
    X axis is out by .0104 and y is only out by .0006

    So X is still creeping a bit but not as bad as it was

    Still not happy with this result, but it is better than it was
    I am not famailiar with other methods besides using the parallel port

    Where can I read up on the different choices available?

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