[sonny68]

Im struggling with a Citizen cincom L25, I cant figure out how can you set the subspindle on Z. I tried MDI, G50 Z2=0, then on Preparation, then i ended u going to the T-Data even. What im trying to do is use the Sub and mill a slot with the gang tool as a backworking. We using G110 for this purpose. I got very upset because i don't have enough time on this machine, i figured out some of the less complex jobs, but this one just kicked my ass. Thank you ahead for the help i can get

[MikeMc]

I am not really sure what you are asking.........you want to bring the sub up to the tools and work on the back side of the part? WHat year is the machine and what control is on it. Is it an L3 or L5?

[sonny68]

Thanks Mike
So the Citizen is a 1997 L25, (our guy who runs it is on vacation and i am the only one who comes close to run the machine and setup). The controller, do not know exactly which one. Looked at the manuals, but did not see anything.
Now about my issue, yes, thats exactly what we trying to do. The programmer wrote it this way. You see, i run a Mori Seiki's with Fanuc controllers and also a Ganesh Cyclon CS 32. The Ganesh have subspindle working on it and when i touch of the sub. it's T3000, Z2=0, right? Now i tried to do the same on the Citizen but its just not working, most likely im doing it wrong. So we use a keycutter on the gangslide rotary station, and used G110 code. The rotary tool moves down on X1, the sub comes in, and cuts a small keyway on the back of the part. So when i try to establish the Z0 for the sub by touching it to the face of the part, its not reading it. Thats why im confused and of course lack of training on this sweet little machine. But im always too busy with aerospace orders i didnt have much time to spend on it.
Thank you once again Mike for your time on helping me, much appreciated

[MikeMc]

send me your e amil address, and i will send you a partial program of a part i do the exact same thing to. [email protected]

[Ned-Dragon]

O3
$1
G50Z.445
M9
M6
M52
M118G113
G0Z-.05
X.225
G821
G99S1=5000M3

T2100(1/8-SPOT-DRILL)
G0X0Z-.05T21
M140
G1Z.035F.001
G0Z-.05T0

T2200(.045-DRILL)
G0X.0Z-.05T22
G83Z.230R.05Q.05F.0005P0
G0G80Z-.05T0

T2300(BORE .010FLAT)
G0X.083Z-.05T23
G1Z-.005F.001
X.069Z.002F.0003
Z.0895F.0003
X.064Z.091F.0003
Z.108F.0003
X.069Z.1095F.0003
Z.124F.0003
X.046Z.1355F.0003
G0Z-.05T0
M141
G820
G99S1=5000M3

T0200(FRONTTURN 45' .005FLAT)
G0X.225Z-.05T02
G0X.225Z-.05T0
M5
G98S3=4000M59
M28S0

T0700(.006-SAW)
G0X.225Y0Z-.05T07
G1X-.006F30.
Z.077F1.0
Z-.050F5.
G4P100
M28S60
Z.077F1.0
Z-.050F5.
G4P100
M28S120
Z.077F1.0
Z-.050F5.
!L3
!L4
G0X.225T0
M05
M60
G821R1
G99S1=5000M3

T2300(RECALL BORE)
/G0X.069Z-.05T23
/M140
/G1Z-.005F.001
/Z.085F.001
/X.067
/G0Z-.05T0
/M141
G820
G99M3S1=5000

T0200(FIN.TURN)
G0X.225Z.0797T12
G0X.225T0

T0300(BK TURN.020FLAT)
G0X.225Z.1303T03
G0X.225T0

G99S1=2500M3

T0100(.050 LH C"OFF)
G0X.225Z.6765T01
G811
M87M97
G114.1H1D-2
!2L1
G99S1=5000M3
G1X.0665F.005
X.0565Z.6815F.0002
X-.01F.0003
X-.05F.002
G810
G113
M8
M8
/M98P5000
M9
M9
M5
M7
G0X-.05Z.445T0
M56
G999
M5
N999
M2
M99
$2
G821
G820
G50Z0
M25
G44
G99M23S2=4000
T3100(BORE)
G0X.055Z-.05T31
G1Z-.005F.001
X.049Z.002F.0003
G1X.046Z.046F.0005
Z.051
G0Z-.05T0
M25
G98
M78S0
T3000(SLOT-HEAD)
!L3
G0X-.01Z0.T30
Z4.55
G1Z4.630F0.5
Z4.55F1.0
G4P100
M78S60
G1Z4.630F0.5
Z4.55F1.0
G4P100
M78S120
G1Z4.630F0.5
Z4.55F1.0
G0Z0T0
!L4
G50Z0
M79
M25
G821
G820
G50Z0
M98H1
M25
M16
T3000
G811
G99S2=2500M24
G0Z-.05
G1Z.110F.05
M77
M15
!1L1
G810
M25
G999
M98H1
N999
M2
M99

N1(BACKWORK)
G44
G50Z0
G99M23S2=5000
T3100
/G0X.046Z-.05T31
/G1Z.051F.001
/G0Z-.05T0
G43
M25
M33
G0W1.25M16
M72
M10
G4P200
M11
M73
T3000
M99
$0
A
#814=0000001250
#815=0000001000
#816=0000001000
#817=0005000000
#822=0000000005
#824=-000000500
#818=0000010000
#819=0000001000
#820=0000000000
#821=0000000800
#990=0000001000
#991=0000051000
#992=0000061000
#893=0000000000

or use G50. must jog sub, look at position page for z2 this is not l25 this is l16 but all citizens can do this. not big problem. you must find position for sub.

[Ned-Dragon]

O1
$1
G50Z-.005
M9
M6
M52
M118G113
G0Z-.05
X.225
G821
G99S1=5000M3

T2100(1/8-SPOT-DRILL)
G0X0Z-.05T21
M140
G1Z.035F.001
G0Z-.05T0

T2200(.012-DRILL)
G0X0Z-.05T22
G83Z.042R.05Q.017F.0005P0
G0G80Z-.05T0
M141
G820
G99S1=5000M3

T0200(FRONTTURN .01FLAT)
G0X.225Z-.05T02
G0X.225Z-.05T0
M5
G98S3=4000M59
M28S0

T0700(.005-SAW)
G0X.225Y0Z-.05T07
G1X-.005F30.
Z.25
Z.298F0.5
Z.250F1.
G4P100
M28S90
G1Z.298F0.5
Z.250F1.0
G0Z-.075
G0X.225T0

T0800
G0X.225Y0Z-.075T08
G1X-.005F30.0
!L3
!L4
G1Z-.075F10.0
G0X.225T0
M05
M60
G821
G99S1=5000M3
T2200(RECALL)
G0X0Z-.05T22
M140
G1Z.042F.001
G0Z-.05T0
M141
G820
G99M3S1=5000

T0200(FIN.TURN)
G0X.225Z.040T12
G0X.225T0

T0300(BK TURN.049)
G0X.225Z.1095T03
G0X.225T0

G99S1=2500M3

T0100(.050C"OFF)
G0X.225Z.2225T01
G811
M87M97
G114.1H1D-2
!2L1
G99S1=5000M3
G1X.0379F.005
X.0279Z.2275F.0002
X-.01F.0003
X-.05F.002
G810
G113
M8
M8
/M98P5000
M9
M9
M5
M7
G0X-.05Z-.005T0
M56
G999
M5
N999
M2
M99
$2
G821
G820
G50Z0
M25
G44
G99M23S2=4000
T3100
G0X0Z-.05T31
G1Z.015F.0005
G0Z-.05T0

T3200
G0X0Z-.05T32
G83Z.065R.05Q.017F.0005P0
G0Z-.05T0

M25
G98
M78S0
T3000(SLOT-HEAD)
!L3
G0X-.01Z0.T30
Z3.95
G1Z4.127F1.5
Z3.95F3.0
G0Z0T0
!L4
G50Z0
M79
M25
G821
G820
G50Z0
M98H1
M25
M16
T3000
G50W-.5
G811
G99S2=2500M24
G0Z-.55
G1Z-.395F.05
M77
M15
!1L1
G810
G50W.5
M25
G999
M98H1
N999
M2
M99

N1(BACKWORK)
G44
G50Z0
G99M23S2=5000
T3200
G0X0Z-.05T32
G1Z.065F.001
G0Z-.05T0
G43
M25
M33
G0W1.0M16
M72
M10
G4P200
M11
M73
T3000
M99
$0
A
#814=0000001250
#815=0000001000
#816=0000001000
#817=0005000000
#822=0000000010
#824=-000000500
#818=0000010000
#819=0000001000
#820=0000000000
#821=0000000600
#990=0000001000
#991=0000051000
#992=0000061000
#893=0000000000