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  1. #1
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    Is this to good to be true?

    Im either going to be buying a G0704 or a G0720 mill from grizzly. The only reason I would go with the G0704 over the G0720 is the price, im on a budget. The G0720 is $2000 more and that can go a long way with the tooling I will also need to get me up and running with the CNC conversion. However I found a site that has the G0720 listed at $1000 off what Grizzly sells them for, the link is below. Anyone have any experience with this company or know anything about them?

    Grizzly G0720R Heavy-Duty Milling Machine

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    They're in Indonesia, so even in the off chance it's a legit business, it'll get expensive very quick to ship a machine that big across the world

    The 0720 is basically a RF45 with a few more bells and whistles. Have a look at wholesale tools, warehouse tools, etc. The stock RF45 is around $1700 I believe..

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    You will also have to pay shipping, hire a customs broker $, pay import tax, pick it up at your local shipping port, and then truck it to your shop/home.

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    The web site promises next day delivery to a US address for $167. Sure, that is going to happen.

    The strangest part is that they claim to only accept payment via wire transfer but then don't supply their bank details that you would need to actually complete the order. Oh, and if you try to order it they sent an email saying that the item is 'out of stock'.

    Something strange going on, the whole thing smells.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dogsop View Post
    The web site promises next day delivery to a US address for $167. Sure, that is going to happen.

    The strangest part is that they claim to only accept payment via wire transfer but then don't supply their bank details that you would need to actually complete the order. Oh, and if you try to order it they sent an email saying that the item is 'out of stock'.

    Something strange going on, the whole thing smells.
    I used to deal with China import. Never do bank transfers, money gram, or western union as you have no recourse. Unless you know the people you are dealing with Paypal or escrow holding accounts are your best bet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TiagoSantos View Post
    They're in Indonesia, so even in the off chance it's a legit business, it'll get expensive very quick to ship a machine that big across the world

    The 0720 is basically a RF45 with a few more bells and whistles. Have a look at wholesale tools, warehouse tools, etc. The stock RF45 is around $1700 I believe..
    It isn't an RF45. First the RF45 is has a gear head and the G0720R has a 2hp DC motor w/a pulley. The G0720R is basically a XS-4. That said if you are looking at the Grizzly, you should also look at the RF45 and the PM-30. I decided to go with the Grizzly, in spite of the cost, easier to speed up the spindle, Grizzly's customer service, and engineering were all considerations.

    But by the time I have it concerted and have purchased *basic* tooling, I'll have a little over 4K invested.

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    Go with Grizzly

    Hello MillingMan

    Your location says "Surrey"; is this Surrey in England? Or is this a namesake city in New England?

    Either way, beware of companies requiring money transfers as you may end up losing your investment. I know not how much of a gambler you may be but I think even the craps table at any Vegas casino may have better odds.

    Regarding your choice in a milling machine, the G0720R, it is(at least on paper) a very capable machine in terms of its work envelope. The quoted envelope in the specs page of the Grizzly site is actually conservative. The envelope of the machine is actually 17 5/8"x 10 5/8"x 16 1/2"(X x Y x Z). While not really much different from the quoted envelope every thousandth of an inch starts to matter when deep cavity milling becomes a possibility because of design parameters.

    The machine comes fairly square out of the box but do your due diligence in inspecting the machine upon arrival. Mine looked like a proper piece of equipment when I broke the shipping crate open. But after cleaning off the generous coating of packing grease I found that the left hand dovetail was ground down too much and it had a two inch "window" into the primed side of the mill base.

    I made Grizzly aware of this with some pictures of the offensive site and they did get a new base to me together with with a new gib that is specifically ground to fit my base/saddle interface.

    Do have the space ready before you order your chosen machine. Mine sat in its crate for a few months until I decided to rid myself of my refrigerator and kitchen counter. But it now happily resides in my unit where I can get to work as soon as I get myself out of bed.

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