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  1. #1
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    4 axis rotational not working on haas output help!!!

    Need a little help with a 4 axis that is not posting out right.

    Have a haas vf5 with a rotary axis. I have a trunion table that holds the part and needs to rotate to two specific sides 90* and 270*.

    in mastercam i am using a contour 3d toolpath and was able to post out for the 90 degrees but when i try to post out for the 270 degrees it gives the following errors.

    I have the axis control set to rotary axis positioning and the planes set to top/ back/ back. let me know if i need to post anything else.

    18 Jan 2013 03:53:53 PM - <0> - Report created.
    18 Jan 2013 03:53:53 PM - <2> - Initialize posting log file
    18 Jan 2013 03:53:53 PM - <2> - Using MP run version 15.00 and post components version 15.00
    18 Jan 2013 03:53:53 PM - <2> - Initiate opening the post processor file(s).
    18 Jan 2013 03:53:53 PM - <2> - D:\USERS\PUBLIC\DOCUMENTS\SHARED MCAMX6\MILL\POSTS\GENERIC HAAS 4X MILL.PST
    18 Jan 2013 03:53:53 PM - <2> - The post processor file has been successfully opened.
    18 Jan 2013 03:53:53 PM - <2> - Post version information (input):
    18 Jan 2013 03:53:53 PM - <2> - UPDATEPOST Version 15. was used to modify this file.
    18 Jan 2013 03:53:53 PM - <2> - The file was modified by this product on 20 May 11 08:51:20
    18 Jan 2013 03:53:53 PM - <2> - The post was written to run with Mastercam Version 15.
    18 Jan 2013 03:53:53 PM - <2> - The post product type is Mill.
    18 Jan 2013 03:53:54 PM - <2> - Initialization of pre-defined post variables, strings, postblocks was successful.
    18 Jan 2013 03:53:54 PM - <2> - Search for defined post variables, strings, postblocks was successful.
    18 Jan 2013 03:53:54 PM - <2> - CONTROL DEFINITION - Post variable 'ltol$' was re-initialized from 0.0005 to 0.002
    18 Jan 2013 03:53:54 PM - <2> - CONTROL DEFINITION - Post variable 'atol$' was re-initialized from 0.5 to 0.01
    18 Jan 2013 03:53:54 PM - <2> - CONTROL DEFINITION - Post variable 'dec_seq_right$' was re-initialized from 3. to 0.
    18 Jan 2013 03:53:54 PM - <2> - CONTROL DEFINITION - Post variable 'nobrk$' was re-initialized from 1. to 0.
    18 Jan 2013 03:53:54 PM - <2> - CONTROL DEFINITION - Post variable 'nobrkxz$' was re-initialized from 1. to 0.
    18 Jan 2013 03:53:54 PM - <2> - CONTROL DEFINITION - Post variable 'nobrkyz$' was re-initialized from 1. to 0.
    18 Jan 2013 03:53:54 PM - <2> - CONTROL DEFINITION - Post variable 'lnobrk$' was re-initialized from 1. to 0.
    18 Jan 2013 03:53:54 PM - <2> - CONTROL DEFINITION - Post variable 'lnobrkxz$' was re-initialized from 1. to 0.
    18 Jan 2013 03:53:54 PM - <2> - CONTROL DEFINITION - Post variable 'lnobrkyz$' was re-initialized from 1. to 0.
    18 Jan 2013 03:53:54 PM - <2> - CONTROL DEFINITION - Post variable 'arcoutput$' was re-initialized from 1. to 0.
    18 Jan 2013 03:53:54 PM - <2> - CONTROL DEFINITION - Post variable 'arcoutputxz$' was re-initialized from 1. to 0.
    18 Jan 2013 03:53:54 PM - <2> - CONTROL DEFINITION - Post variable 'arcoutputyz$' was re-initialized from 1. to 0.
    18 Jan 2013 03:53:54 PM - <2> - CONTROL DEFINITION - Post variable 'larcoutput$' was re-initialized from 1. to 0.
    18 Jan 2013 03:53:54 PM - <2> - CONTROL DEFINITION - Post variable 'larctypexz$' was re-initialized from 1. to 0.
    18 Jan 2013 03:53:54 PM - <2> - CONTROL DEFINITION - Post variable 'larcoutputyz$' was re-initialized from 1. to 0.
    18 Jan 2013 03:53:54 PM - <2> - CONTROL DEFINITION - Post variable 'breakarcs$' was re-initialized from 0. to 1.
    18 Jan 2013 03:53:54 PM - <2> - CONTROL DEFINITION - Post variable 'breakarcsxz$' was re-initialized from 0. to 1.
    18 Jan 2013 03:53:54 PM - <2> - CONTROL DEFINITION - Post variable 'breakarcsyz$' was re-initialized from 0. to 1.
    18 Jan 2013 03:53:54 PM - <2> - CONTROL DEFINITION - Post variable 'lbreakarcs$' was re-initialized from 0. to 1.
    18 Jan 2013 03:53:54 PM - <2> - CONTROL DEFINITION - Post variable 'lbreakarcsxz$' was re-initialized from 0. to 1.
    18 Jan 2013 03:53:54 PM - <2> - CONTROL DEFINITION - Post variable 'lbreakarcsyz$' was re-initialized from 0. to 1.
    18 Jan 2013 03:53:54 PM - <2> - CONTROL DEFINITION - Post variable 'helix_arc$' was re-initialized from 1. to 0.
    18 Jan 2013 03:53:54 PM - <2> - CONTROL DEFINITION - Post variable 'lhelix_arc$' was re-initialized from 1. to 0.
    18 Jan 2013 03:53:54 PM - <2> - CONTROL DEFINITION - Post variable 'do_full_arc$' was re-initialized from 1. to 0.
    18 Jan 2013 03:53:54 PM - <2> - CONTROL DEFINITION - Post variable 'do_full_arcxz$' was re-initialized from 1. to 0.
    18 Jan 2013 03:53:54 PM - <2> - CONTROL DEFINITION - Post variable 'do_full_arcyz$' was re-initialized from 1. to 0.
    18 Jan 2013 03:53:54 PM - <2> - CONTROL DEFINITION - Post variable 'ldo_full_arc$' was re-initialized from 1. to 0.
    18 Jan 2013 03:53:54 PM - <2> - CONTROL DEFINITION - Post variable 'ldo_full_arcxz$' was re-initialized from 1. to 0.
    18 Jan 2013 03:53:54 PM - <2> - CONTROL DEFINITION - Post variable 'ldo_full_arcyz$' was re-initialized from 1. to 0.
    18 Jan 2013 03:53:54 PM - <2> - CONTROL DEFINITION - Post variable 'rotfeed4$' was re-initialized from 2. to 1.
    18 Jan 2013 03:53:54 PM - <2> - CONTROL DEFINITION - Post variable 'rotfeed5$' was re-initialized from 3. to 1.
    18 Jan 2013 03:53:54 PM - <2> - CONTROL DEFINITION - Post variable 'lrotfeed4$' was re-initialized from 2. to 1.
    18 Jan 2013 03:53:54 PM - <2> - CONTROL DEFINITION - Post variable 'lrotfeed5$' was re-initialized from 0. to 1.
    18 Jan 2013 03:53:54 PM - <2> - CONTROL DEFINITION - Post variable 'sub_level$' was re-initialized from 0. to 0.
    18 Jan 2013 03:53:54 PM - <2> - RUN TIME - Only single-axis rotation is allowed! Angles may be incorrect.
    18 Jan 2013 03:53:54 PM - <2> - RUN TIME - Only single-axis rotation is allowed! Angles may be incorrect.
    18 Jan 2013 03:53:54 PM - <2> - RUN TIME - Only single-axis rotation is allowed! Angles may be incorrect.
    18 Jan 2013 03:53:54 PM - <2> - RUN TIME - Only single-axis rotation is allowed! Angles may be incorrect.
    18 Jan 2013 03:53:54 PM - <2> - RUN TIME - Only single-axis rotation is allowed! Angles may be incorrect.
    18 Jan 2013 03:53:54 PM - <2> - RUN TIME - Only single-axis rotation is allowed! Angles may be incorrect.
    18 Jan 2013 03:53:54 PM - <2> - RUN TIME - Only single-axis rotation is allowed! Angles may be incorrect.
    18 Jan 2013 03:53:54 PM - <2> - RUN TIME - Only single-axis rotation is allowed! Angles may be incorrect.
    18 Jan 2013 03:53:54 PM - <2> - RUN TIME - Only single-axis rotation is allowed! Angles may be incorrect.
    18 Jan 2013 03:53:54 PM - <2> - RUN TIME - Only single-axis rotation is allowed! Angles may be incorrect.
    18 Jan 2013 03:53:54 PM - <2> - RUN TIME - Only single-axis rotation is allowed! Angles may be incorrect.
    18 Jan 2013 03:53:54 PM - <2> - RUN TIME - Only single-axis rotation is allowed! Angles may be incorrect.
    18 Jan 2013 03:53:54 PM - <2> - Successful completion of posting process!

  2. #2
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    The expert will get to this later.

  3. #3
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    Sounds good...

    this is what i have tried so far.

    Verified my machine defninition manager settings with a buddy. all look good
    Reinstalled X6 thru mu3 update
    deleted the operation and redid - same issue


    A buddy took my file and was able to post it with the a values working but then tried to post the same thing again and he got the same error.

  4. #4
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    Covered previously
    link

    machining view cannot be achieved by rotating only 1 axis ( in relation to the WCS that you have used)
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  5. #5
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    Hello thank you for the info... was able to get it to work yesterday but didnt understand why. know i do thank you.

  6. #6
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    for example using the default bottom plane or WCS rotates the part around the Y axis instead of the X axis so this can not be achieved with this machine setup.
    (Note: The opinions expressed in this post are my own and are not necessarily those of CNCzone and its management)
    Cadcam
    Software and hardware sales, contract Programming and Consultant , Cad-Cam Instructor .

  7. #7
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    On the 4th axis you can not use the back plane as it relates to the top view. The way we get around it is to use dynamic plan to create a view that will roll in the right direction without needing to turn the view in a second direction.

  8. #8
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    (On the 4th axis you can not use the back plane as it relates to the top view.)
    Are you trying to say that it rotates around the Z axis instead of rotating around the X axis as needed.The Dynamic tools are great for this type of thing as they are interactive and easy to use. just did a Webinar yesterday on one use of programming are part with 4 side and 4 different ops using Dynmic WCS

    Did you get this issue worked out?
    (Note: The opinions expressed in this post are my own and are not necessarily those of CNCzone and its management)
    Cadcam
    Software and hardware sales, contract Programming and Consultant , Cad-Cam Instructor .

  9. #9
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    im having trouble with the rotation of my 4th axis on the haas vf-2, during the program, when its machining on the x axis its going slower than dirt (cause you have to turn ur feed way down to keep from throwing alarms for exceeding max feed rate) but when its machining on the a axis its hauling ass and i cant figure out how to correct it or compensate for the problem and its getting close to crunch time on the part, need help fast. please and thanks

  10. #10
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    Inverse time feed?

  11. #11
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    As Txcncman stated you want to see G93 and G94 in code.
    Can you share the Mastercam file and what post are you using. may be able help with this.
    (Note: The opinions expressed in this post are my own and are not necessarily those of CNCzone and its management)
    Cadcam
    Software and hardware sales, contract Programming and Consultant , Cad-Cam Instructor .

  12. #12
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    Hi, did you figure out this problem. I know it is a very old post. But if you still have this problem then i have a solution for it.

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