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  1. #1
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    Morbidelli - Alphacam help...please

    I have a Morbidelli Author 600k and am having trouble getting Autocad files to the machine. We recently acquired the 1998 Morbidelli and can generate toolpaths with Alphacam. The translation from the toolpath file through Xilog to the machine is problematic. We have the correct post processor, but cannot go from .anc (Alphacam file) to .pgm. (morbidelli binary file type). Can't give the poor girl one. Any help would be appreciated.

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    Also, for reference, we generate 3-D cad files in Autocad 2007, save as .dxf R12 (the oldest version possible) and imput CAD into Alphacam. Create the toolpath. Output as a .anc file. (g-code) The process stops here. Xilog needs a .txt or ascii file.

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    Sounds like you do not have the correct post processor?? I'm not familiar with the older Morbideli's, but most machines that use Xilog use an .xxl file, not an .anc file.
    The .xxl file is converted to a .pgm file using WinXIso.

    Our AlphaCAM post processor creates the .xxl and runs WinXiso automatically in the background to give us .pgm files directly from Alphacam.
    Gerry

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    Thanks for the information Gerry. I have another question for you, based on what you said: After I create the tool path in Alphacam, I then proceed to 'outputNC'. My only 'save as' option is .anc. Should I be seeing another 'save as' option? Perhaps a 'save as .xxl' option?

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    I'd honestly have to check on Tuesday when I get back to work. We have a toolbar button for our post, so I don't know what the actual command is.
    What version of AlphaCAM? We're using 7 or 7.5.
    Gerry

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    Alphacam Screenshot for the Morbidelli..

    Gerry, We use Alphacam V8. I would love to know what happens when 'you' output-NC. Or, how the .xxl file is created. I can only get the .anc result. I'm missing something. Look at the attached screen shot showing my toolbar and post-processor options, see if you can tell anything. (or go to this link - http://www.whitakermillworks.com/screenshot.htm )And again, thanks.Attachment 186068

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    Hi, I have recently acquired a morbidelli author 502 (tria 7500) . I don't have the correct post processor for alphacam 2013 R1 . Some one have this post processor ? Thanks in advance. Emiliano

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    Gerry, We use Alphacam V8. I would love to know what happens when 'you' output-NC. Or, how the .xxl file is created.
    Sorry for the late reply, but I forgot about this.
    We use a custom post from SCM that is called from a toolbar button. Everything is automatic and transparent, so I don't really know exactly how it works.
    Gerry

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    Try opening the .anc file in notepad and the save as a .txt file. It's been many moons since I used alphacam but I believe like most posts from almost every cam program the output files are actually .txt files with a different mask. Most posted g-code files can be opened in notepad.


    Ben

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    Hi
    I´m Francisco from ICAMTEK (ICAMTEK) We have the correct post processor for this machine. The common post processor for this machine is not the one you need. We are official distributors of Alphacam and post processor developers.
    If you want the right one, you can contact me in [email protected]
    Kind Regards

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    You can just rename the .anc file to .xxl
    Then on the Morbidelli select xxl filetype and choose copy program, name the program what you would like and it will be converted to a pgm file.

    That's how it works on my Author 504 anyway, putting the xxl on a disk and copying it on the machine.

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    Hi Emiliano,
    I have an Author 502 also and are in the same situation.
    Did you manage to source the correct post processor for Alphacam?
    Can you share with me where you sourced it from?
    Regards,
    Ross.

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    Author 502 looking for Alphacam Post.

    Hi Emiliano,
    I have an Author 502 also and are in the same situation.
    Did you manage to source the correct post processor for Alphacam?
    Can you share with me where you sourced it from?
    Regards,
    Ross.

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    Re: Morbidelli - Alphacam help...please

    Quote Originally Posted by Morbidell View Post
    I have a Morbidelli Author 600k and am having trouble getting Autocad files to the machine. We recently acquired the 1998 Morbidelli and can generate toolpaths with Alphacam. The translation from the toolpath file through Xilog to the machine is problematic. We have the correct post processor, but cannot go from .anc (Alphacam file) to .pgm. (morbidelli binary file type). Can't give the poor girl one. Any help would be appreciated.
    Hi,
    I've the same problem with a SCM machine. I think to have the correct post for Alphacam but I can't output a file .xxl or .pgm (only .anc)
    Can you help me? :idea::idea::idea:

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    Re: Morbidelli - Alphacam help...please

    Hi,

    Save the .anc file as a .txt file and use WINXISO.exe to convert to .PGM

    Help File Link: https://www.dropbox.com/s/gxbhdtz76u...20PGM.rtf?dl=0

    Exe link: https://www.dropbox.com/s/rb83y21mfg...NXISO.exe?dl=0

    Regards.

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    Re: Morbidelli - Alphacam help...please

    Quote Originally Posted by FrankCNC View Post
    Hi,

    Save the .anc file as a .txt file and use WINXISO.exe to convert to .PGM

    Help File Link: https://www.dropbox.com/s/gxbhdtz76u...20PGM.rtf?dl=0

    Exe link: https://www.dropbox.com/s/rb83y21mfg...NXISO.exe?dl=0

    Regards.

    Wow, great! Thanks very much, you're the best! :cheers::cheers::cheers:

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    Re: Morbidelli - Alphacam help...please

    Hi,

    If you place code similar to the following in your AlphaCam Post Processor the WINXISO.exe will run after the post processing of the NC Code and place the .PGM file into the folder where you outputted the NC Code.

    When asked by AlphaCam to save NC Code as... select Save as type: All Files(*.*) and use .xxl or .txt extension.

    $------------------------- PROGRAM LEADING/TRAILING LINES -------------------
    $5
    $RUN C:\TEMP\XILOG PLUS\BIN\WINXISO.EXE <--- path to winXiso, yours will be different.
    $10 File LEADING lines

    You only need to add the $5 and $RUN lines

    Later version of Winxiso
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/rb83y21mfg...NXISO.exe?dl=0

    Cheers,

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    Re: Morbidelli - Alphacam help...please

    Good Luck

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    Re: Morbidelli - Alphacam help...please

    My Apologies but that later Winxiso needs these 8 Dependencies in the same folder to work

    https://www.dropbox.com/sh/j0gr7x0tu...rZADKxzia?dl=0

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    Re: Morbidelli - Alphacam help...please

    Quote Originally Posted by Morbidell View Post
    I have a Morbidelli Author 600k and am having trouble getting Autocad files to the machine. We recently acquired the 1998 Morbidelli and can generate toolpaths with Alphacam. The translation from the toolpath file through Xilog to the machine is problematic. We have the correct post processor, but cannot go from .anc (Alphacam file) to .pgm. (morbidelli binary file type). Can't give the poor girl one. Any help would be appreciated.
    here is how i do it, i make the program with autocad and after i get it drawn and zeroed out i drag into alphacam using draftsight, program it, output it to machine, then i open up xilog parsifal and start a new program with the text editor selected and copy everything over to it just deleting the first line of code from my copy



    **edit** im using alpha 2016 R1

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