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  1. #1
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    New machine - G540 - 110V Huanyang VFD - Chinese spindle 1.5kW

    hello everyone,
    My name is Marc and am new to the CNC community:wave:. I have been gathering parts to build my first CNC router.
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    So far all axes move but I am having issues wiring the 110V Huanyang VFD to the G540. It is now powered but the spindle does not spin.
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    I have tried to program the VFD as explained here: http://www.cnczone.com/forums/diy_cn...gs_manual.html
    PD0013 to 8
    PD005 to 400
    PD004 to 400
    PD003 to 400
    PD144 to 3000 (but i think i should change it to 24000)
    and have set PD008 to 110v

    What should I do next?

    If i understand I should:
    - short DCM and FOR on the VFD to turn the spindle on
    - connect G540 pin 7 to ACM on the VFD (top row?)
    - connect G540 pin 8 to VI on the VFD
    - connect G540 pin 9 to 10V on the VFD (I think it is the pin 10V on the top row)
    - program VFD PD001 to 1
    - program VFD PD002 to 1

    Not sure what I am doing...

  2. #2
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    I think you have to run the Huanyang from 220v and not 110v. Not 110% sure but it's something to do with when you use 110v single phase in you only get 110v 3-phase out with the HY stuff. For a 1.5kw spindle you require 220v. I think you can add step up transformers to get your 220v.

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    The front cover you have removed over the terminals usually has a label with the voltage, I don't recall seeing a 110v one?
    Al.
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    The VFD was ordered as a 110V unit. the sticker on the front cover shows the voltage input (as show on the previous picture).
    This is picture from the VFD label
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    HY is the trade mark
    01D5 is the inverter capacity 1.5kW
    11 is the voltage rating (eg: 43 means 3-phase 380V)
    B is the software version

    reference:
    Homann Designs diagram: http://www.homanndesigns.com/pdfs/EN010_V8.pdf
    VDF manual: http://www.jinlantrade.com/ebay/invertermanual.pdf
    http://www.cnczone.com/forums/diy_cn...gs_manual.html
    http://www.cnczone.com/forums/phase_...cko_540_a.html
    Tips for Newbie Huanyang VFD users

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    I'm not familiar with huanyang vfds but when I have to made similar settings on my Fuling inverter I had also to set some jumpers into proper position
    I see in you vfd's picture you also have some jumpers there. check them, maybe one of them are for enabling/disabling the external commands pin

    also (at least for my fulling vfd), when you set the vfd to listen to external commands you should not be able to control it manually
    unfortunately it was long time ago and I don't remember more details.

    good luck,
    Seb
    HTM.Ro - Hobby Tools Manufacturing

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    The VFD shows a "LU" or "LV" when powered on. What does it mean?

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    !st, you need to forget about controlling it remotely for now. Set it up to run off the keypad until you figure it out. Second, check your motor leads, lots of these chinese spindles were wired wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dubdzine View Post
    The VFD shows a "LU" or "LV" when powered on. What does it mean?
    I have 3 versions of the manual and don't see LU/LV in any of them?
    If this appeared while trying to commission it, you can set it back to Factory default by PD013 set to 08
    Al.
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    yes, I am trying to get the spindle to spin only from the the VFD for now. Still no movement but a LU showing on a VFD when powered. I believe the spindle is porperly wired. 1,2,3,4 from the spindle to U,V,W, ground respectively on the VFD.

    Quote Originally Posted by underthetire View Post
    !st, you need to forget about controlling it remotely for now. Set it up to run off the keypad until you figure it out. Second, check your motor leads, lots of these chinese spindles were wired wrong.
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    I have tried to program the VFD as explained here: Huanyang Chinese VFD settings and manual here!
    PD0013 to 8
    PD005 to 400
    PD004 to 400
    PD003 to 400
    PD144 to 3000 (but i think i should change it to 24000)
    and have set PD008 to 110v

    Quote Originally Posted by Al_The_Man View Post
    I have 3 versions of the manual and don't see LU/LV in any of them?
    If this appeared while trying to commission it, you can set it back to Factory default by PD013 set to 08
    Al.

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    Did you set PD013 back to 0, or did it reset itself?
    You should be able to leave all at the fact default to try it.
    Make sure pd1 & pd2 are 0.
    Al.
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    Did you check it WITH A METER? one of those 3 phase legs could be straight to ground, others posts have indicated this problem.

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    Thanks you all for the help,
    I have finally found some users that had the similar LU error
    Huanyang DY02d223B Inverter - "LV" error - YouTube
    so I change this following parameters to:
    PD200=65535
    PD209=100
    Tips for Newbie Huanyang VFD users - Page 30

    I will soon try to hook up the G540 to it to get it controlled

    Marc

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    I have been trying to control my Huanyang VFD to Mach3 via Gecko 540. But running into a few issues:

    1) (FIXED, it was just a bad connection) I still have to hit the RUN button to get the spindle to spin. I still cannot get Mach 3 to be "the source of Run commands". I have a 48V 30A SPST relay in between pin 5 on G540 and DCM/FOR on the VFD. I tried to set PD001 to 1 and still couldn't get it to start even when directly wire DCM to FOR. The relay does switch when typing M3 or M5 commands.

    2) The VFD speed is not consistent with Mach 3. It spins at 23160rpm when entering M3 S24000 and 7200rpm when entering M3 S6000.

    3) I am looking to change PD142 to 13.6A since the VFD is 110V but it maxes out at 7A.

    My VFD parameters for my 1.5KW 110V water cooled chinese spindle
    PD001 Source of Run Commands: 0
    PD002 Source of operating Frequency: 1
    PD005 Max operating frequency: 400hz
    PD004 base frequency: 400hz
    PD003 Main frequency: 400hz
    PD006 Intermediate frequency: 2.5
    PD008 max voltage: 110v
    PD009 Intermediate voltage: 15v
    PD010 Min voltage: 8
    PD011 frequency lower limit: 100hz
    PD014 = 5.0 (acceleration time, 5 seconds)
    PD015 = 0.8 (deceleration time; any more trips the VFD)
    PD025 = 1 (starting mode: frequency track)PD023 Reverse: 1
    PD027 starting frequency: 3
    PD028 stopping frequency: 3
    PD070 set control to 0-5V: 0
    PD0072 is now set at 400 instead of 50
    PD141 rated motor voltage: 110V
    PD142 rated motor current: 7 Amps (should be 13.6A @ 110V)
    PD143 motor pole number: 2
    PD144 rated motor revolution: 3000
    PD163 = 1 (slave address 1)
    PD164 = 1 (baud rate 9600 bps)
    PD165 = 3 (8N1 for RTU mode)


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    The settings you show are wrong if you are using Mach outputs, (not Modbus).
    PD01 is 1 external communication
    PD02 is 1 Pot or analogue control
    PD07 should be 135Hz if using the 400Hz Chinese spindle.
    PD143 is 02
    PD144 is 3000
    BTW there is a Modbus Plug in available also.
    PS: I see that others have used PD10 = 8.
    Al.
    CNC, Mechatronics Integration and Custom Machine Design

    “Logic will get you from A to B. Imagination will take you everywhere.”
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    AL_The Man,
    PD001 doesn't let me turn star/run the spindle (even if i manually connect DCM and FOR, the relay does switch tho).
    PD007 is the min. frequency. It is set at 0.50Hz and the value can range from 0.01 and 20.00 HZ
    PD143 is 02
    I also thought that PD144 should have been set at 24000 but it maxes out at 9999.

    Marc

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    I rechecked, The setting for min freq is PD11 not PD7, and should be set for around 130Hz otherwise you can burn your motor out if using the 400Hz model.
    PD144 is set for the rpm at the supply freq 50/60Hz for the pole count of the motor (2pole).
    PD144 = 3000
    If you are set for external commands PD1=1 and also PD2 = 1 and a pot attached then it should run with the FWD closed?
    Al.
    CNC, Mechatronics Integration and Custom Machine Design

    “Logic will get you from A to B. Imagination will take you everywhere.”
    Albert E.

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    Al_ The_Man,
    I changed PD011 to 130Hz. The spindle now spins at 7800rpm when I enter M5 in Mach 3, and 22800rpm when entering M3 S24000.
    I still cannot set PD001 at 1. The spindle does not run when connecting DCM and FOR.

    Marc

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    I can now run the VFD from Mach 3 (the issue was a bad wire connection). The VFD speed is not consistent with Mach 3. It spins at 23160rpm when entering M3 S24000 and 7200rpm when entering M3 S6000.
    The highest rated motor current that can be set is 7A in PD142 when it needs 13.6 A at 110V (1.5kW)

    Marc

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    Re: New machine - G540 - 110V Huanyang VFD - Chinese spindle 1.5kW

    hello Marc
    I too have recently built a small machine with the exact same build parts.
    I followed your post regarding the issues you have had but before I connect my spindle up what were your final settings at including ports pins etc if you dont mind sharing them that is.
    Also the wiring diagram from the gecko g540 to the spindle

    Adrian

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    Re: New machine - G540 - 110V Huanyang VFD - Chinese spindle 1.5kW

    here is a good shot of the G540 connection to VFD and a relay

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