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  1. #1
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    how to mill inside an area and not over an area?

    Hi guys,

    I would like to know if there is a way to mill inside a delimited area?

    When I choose a polyline that delimits the area I would like to mill, the tool always run over this polyline, at the beginning or the end of the toolpath depending on the offset option I choose (outside to inside or inside to outside).

    But I would like the tool to mill only to the tangency of this polyline, and not over this polyline.
    Is there a way to do so?

    Thanks.

    Jedioliver
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    Use cutter comp. G41 (climb cut) or G42. Not sure how to do it with VM, though.
    Gerry

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    Thanks for your answer Gerry.

    Perhaps there is a way to do so using the post processor editor, but I don't know how?

    Any idea guys?

    Thanks once again.

    Jedioliver

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    I believe this was discussed at Mecsoft forum.
    www.integratedmechanical.ca

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    I have the same problem.
    Is there a possibility to compensate the cutter diameter?

    Thanks Andre

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    The only solution I have find is to offset the curve by half the diameter of the tool I use.
    When it's not possible to offset the curve, I use 2 1/2 Pocketing or 3D Pocketing or 3D curve machining. You have with the last one the option "on " or along the curve.

    Then I use the "move" function for the toolpath to duplicate the toolpath on z axis.

    Hope this help.

    Olivier

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    As far as I know, in the current VM, A region used as toolpath limiting boundary (not a cutting toolpath) limits the toolpath ONLY not the cutter.
    This is a much desired enhancement IMO.
    Meaning that it does not allow for cutter compensation.
    Using an offset to downsize the region as jedi states is the way that I do it.
    However, the simplest and fastest cutting of the above profile is best accomplished using 2.5D machining methods anyway.
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    Yeah...hope the new version will offer "on - inside - outside" cutting area option on all milling operations...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jedioliver View Post
    Hi guys,

    I would like to know if there is a way to mill inside a delimited area?

    When I choose a polyline that delimits the area I would like to mill, the tool always run over this polyline, at the beginning or the end of the toolpath depending on the offset option I choose (outside to inside or inside to outside).

    But I would like the tool to mill only to the tangency of this polyline, and not over this polyline.
    Is there a way to do so?

    Thanks.

    Jedioliver
    To do this operation in Visual Mill (I'm using v5.0):
    -select your polyline. It needs to be a closed polyline for it to work.
    -asuming you have already selected your tool and feed rates, click "2 1/2 Axis Milling"
    -select "Engraving"
    -in the popup window, you'll have the option to select "On condition" or "To condition." Select "To Condition," then chose whether you want to cut inside or outside your polyline
    -set your cut depth parameters
    -check the Entry/Exit settings. Make sure the Exit angle is set to 0 to prevent trashing parts, tools and vises.
    -generate your toolpath
    -cut parts, bask in glory

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    Thanks Unabiker for your help.

    It's true I have found some good solutions to my problems using 2 1/2 functions of VM5.

    Jedi

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    Quote Originally Posted by jedioliver View Post
    When I choose a polyline that delimits the area I would like to mill, the tool always run over this polyline, at the beginning or the end of the toolpath depending on the offset option I choose (outside to inside or inside to outside).

    That sounds like a problem I was having. What you may need to do is tweak the entry/exit parameters for the cut. VM would do everything fine and then slice off at the very end making a nicely radiused gouge.

    You can change the direction and length of the exit/retract motions, and sometimes moving the start/stop point of the curve to a different location can help avoid running into another part of the curve (or an adjacent feature.

    I don't know why it needs to have a 1/4" or so exit motion - once you've gotten a few thou in X or Y off the wall you are cutting you may as well retract the spindle vertically out of the part.

    Moving the start/stop points of different curves can help make for smoother transitions between features.

    cheers,
    Michael

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