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  1. #1
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    Lightbulb Autocad and SCM Sigma Prima: Looking for a cut optimizer

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    Hi all!


    Hope some one can help me or point me in the right direction:

    I´m working at a custom furniture factory where we make walk in closets, wall panels, TV wall units, all custom made. We have a SCM Sigma Prima 65 Beam Saw with Wincut 12 and the raw material we use is mdf with wood veneer.

    Currently we input all the pieces by "hand" to wincut from a list we make from the customer drawings. Almost all drawings are 2D made in Autocad so we need to make a bill of materials by hand, then input that info to wincut.

    So I´m looking for a software that can help me get the info from the 2D (or 3D) drawings to make a cutting list so I can import this list in an optimizer, and save time by making the optimization in a software to get cut file.


    I already have searched software like Cabinet Vision and Imos, they are great but I need to "redo" the entire project again in either software, to be able to make a bill of materials to get the list of parts with measurements, and it´s a

    considerable investment, and the time I need to invest on knowing the software, so I´m looking for all the options available.


    Another way is to just get the Optimizer, like Blue Cell or Ottimo, but I still need a way to get the info I need from the drawings to get a cut list to feed the beam saw, some one told me I can use Autodesk BOM Assigner & Exporter

    (https://apps.autodesk.com/ACD/en/Det...ng=en&os=Win64) or BOM Extractor (https://apps.autodesk.com/MEP/en/Det...en&os=Win32_64) But

    I understand that the drawing needs to be done in blocks with certain attributes to be able to get the info I need.


    I´m looking at Sawing Table plug in from Autodesk (https://apps.autodesk.com/ACD/en/Det...en&os=Win32_64) But I don´t know if it´s my best bet.


    So I hope someone has been in the same dilema as I am right now and give me some good advice to save time and money.


    Many thanks in advance!


    Raúl G.

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    Re: Autocad and SCM Sigma Prima: Looking for a cut optimizer

    Without using a "real" cabinet package for your design, you're most likely looking at manually entering the data somewhere. Some optimizers probably will accept a CSV file, so you could simple type the part sizes into an Excel spreadsheet.
    Gerry

    UCCNC 2017 Screenset
    http://www.thecncwoodworker.com/2017.html

    Mach3 2010 Screenset
    http://www.thecncwoodworker.com/2010.html

    JointCAM - CNC Dovetails & Box Joints
    http://www.g-forcecnc.com/jointcam.html

    (Note: The opinions expressed in this post are my own and are not necessarily those of CNCzone and its management)

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    Re: Autocad and SCM Sigma Prima: Looking for a cut optimizer

    Thanks Gerry!

    I´m looking at WoodCAD/CAM also, let´s see if this one can help me find a solution.

    Cheers!

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    Re: Autocad and SCM Sigma Prima: Looking for a cut optimizer

    wood cad/cam from my experience is a Stiles Machinery product (homag Holzma weeke ect ect)i could be wrong,,, Geniov4 is what SCM is adding on to their cnc type machines..take a look at polyboard pp (https://wooddesigner.org/polyboard-software-tools/) the cheapiest i have seen so far...and there are always my 2 favorites Alphacam and Cabinet vision (paired with some type of cad free or paid whatever produces a DXF)


    Software Engineer - Key Software Services

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    Re: Autocad and SCM Sigma Prima: Looking for a cut optimizer

    Wood Cad/CAM is the US version of imos, which has been available in Europe for many years.
    We were recently looking at a Homag machine and Stiles is pushing Wood CAD/CAM.
    Gerry

    UCCNC 2017 Screenset
    http://www.thecncwoodworker.com/2017.html

    Mach3 2010 Screenset
    http://www.thecncwoodworker.com/2010.html

    JointCAM - CNC Dovetails & Box Joints
    http://www.g-forcecnc.com/jointcam.html

    (Note: The opinions expressed in this post are my own and are not necessarily those of CNCzone and its management)

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    Re: Autocad and SCM Sigma Prima: Looking for a cut optimizer

    their woodwop 6 is pretty nice,, and the 3d version of woodwop on their 5 axis machine is pretty spot on as well,,,hopefully buy a Stiles product,,,very very nice stuff,,,,we have a kd77 that ive been bandaiding for years,,,corssing my fingers we get a new one this year,,,


    Software Engineer - Key Software Services

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    Re: Autocad and SCM Sigma Prima: Looking for a cut optimizer

    Hi! thanks for your reply´s!

    I just had a online demo of WoodCAD/CAM, and yes, is the US version od Imos, but this version already has an optimizer integrated, Imos on the other hand, needs to have an optimizer, like Blue Cell or Ottimo in order to comunicate with the beam saw.

    by the way, does anyone know in which extension I need to export a cut file to be able to open it in Wincut 12?

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    Re: Autocad and SCM Sigma Prima: Looking for a cut optimizer

    Quote Originally Posted by Nite2099 View Post
    wood cad/cam from my experience is a Stiles Machinery product (homag Holzma weeke ect ect)i could be wrong,,, Geniov4 is what SCM is adding on to their cnc type machines..take a look at polyboard pp (https://wooddesigner.org/polyboard-software-tools/) the cheapiest i have seen so far...and there are always my 2 favorites Alphacam and Cabinet vision (paired with some type of cad free or paid whatever produces a DXF)


    Software Engineer - Key Software Services
    Thanks Nite2099, I´m looking at their website!

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