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    Engraving some names on aluminum tags

    Hi Everybody,

    My name is Dan and I need some help!
    I have a lot of names to engrave in some aluminum tags.
    The project is made in Artcam and I am using ISO font. (line font)
    The thickness of a letter must be 0.8~1 mm

    The problem is that I tried to use DATRON end mills but got them broken or the edges remain ugly.
    Also tried to use DATRON 30 degree mills but after 3~4 tags, the mill needs resharpening.

    Can anyone give me an advise?

    Thanks!

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    Re: Engraving some names on aluminum tags

    What is your spindle speed? This is very important when using small cutters. Also what do you mean by thickness?

    Ernie

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    Re: Engraving some names on aluminum tags

    You'll break or dull the tip trying to do that in one pass with a 30° tip... You can try a 90° which should also help with burrs. Chipload should be very small, ao unless you have a high speed spindle you'll have to take it slow...

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    Re: Engraving some names on aluminum tags

    For letters so small I use a non rotating springloaded diamond with medium spring pressure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by br1 View Post
    For letters so small I use a non rotating springloaded diamond with medium spring pressure.
    But he's using a single line font and needs 1mm letter thickness so that's out of the equation.

    What you CAN do with a spring loaded holder is use a burnishing bit, they should have one with 1mm cut width. Used normally for marking in lacquered brass.

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    Re: Engraving some names on aluminum tags

    I suspect something in the set up is seriously wrong if you are wearing out a Datron cutter in aluminium after such little work. What is the total cut time for the 3 parts? Unless it is many many hours, I would almost wonder whether your spindle is running in reverse...
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    Re: Engraving some names on aluminum tags

    How fast is your spindle going? How many flutes on those endmills? Are you using flood coolant, mist, or cutting dry? What kind of aluminum is it?

    For jobs like this, you need high spindle speed, single or 2-flute cutters, lots of lubrication, and heat-treated aluminum, or the metal tends to stick to the cutter.
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    Re: Engraving some names on aluminum tags

    Quote Originally Posted by ErnieD View Post
    What is your spindle speed? This is very important when using small cutters. Also what do you mean by thickness?

    Ernie
    My spindle speed is 24000 rpm.
    For thickness, lets take the letter I, I need to use a 0.8mm end mill to get the thickness 0.8mm.

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    Re: Engraving some names on aluminum tags

    Quote Originally Posted by awerby View Post
    How fast is your spindle going? How many flutes on those endmills? Are you using flood coolant, mist, or cutting dry? What kind of aluminum is it?

    For jobs like this, you need high spindle speed, single or 2-flute cutters, lots of lubrication, and heat-treated aluminum, or the metal tends to stick to the cutter.
    Spindle speed is 24000 rpm
    1 flute on the end mill DATRON
    cutting dry, but was thinking to use some cooling fluid.
    I am not sure for the aluminum type, I got it from the client. (I saw one made someone else and it looked great)

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    Re: Engraving some names on aluminum tags

    datrons has high rpm spindles.. up to 60K
    for aluminum you can go a lot higher rpm then 24K

    engraving bit and flat tip, at least 0.5 mm.. the 30 deg bit is ok..
    you might go with 2-3 passes, but for engraving don't need real depth..

    if your tool is dulled, then only reason I can imagine, the material deposited on the tip and it breaks.. due low rpm or too high feed..

    for aluminum you can use denatured spirit, or simply wd40..

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    Re: Engraving some names on aluminum tags

    Remember you really got to take light passes with a sharp 30deg. cutter as the tip is really fragile. Also why I recommend at least 90deg. or more angle, as you won't need to cut as deep to affect a thicker line.

    If you use a straight endmill, I'd suggest going pretty light with the passes. I actually engraved a brass name plaque using an .020" endmill, to get into the serifs. I had to use .007" passes to keep the tool from snapping. I'd have used a v-bit, but the sample I was shown had vertical walls in the lettering.

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    Re: Engraving some names on aluminum tags

    Quote Originally Posted by louieatienza View Post
    Remember you really got to take light passes with a sharp 30deg. cutter as the tip is really fragile. Also why I recommend at least 90deg. or more angle, as you won't need to cut as deep to affect a thicker line.

    If you use a straight endmill, I'd suggest going pretty light with the passes. I actually engraved a brass name plaque using an .020" endmill, to get into the serifs. I had to use .007" passes to keep the tool from snapping. I'd have used a v-bit, but the sample I was shown had vertical walls in the lettering.
    OK noted.


    I was looking for a 90deg tool and found this.
    Please check attached.
    D1= 3 mm D2= 3 mm L1= 40 mm L2= 2.5 mm α= 60 °
    In your opinion, will this work?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DDA1986 View Post
    OK noted.


    I was looking for a 90deg tool and found this.
    Please check attached.
    D1= 3 mm D2= 3 mm L1= 40 mm L2= 2.5 mm α= 60 °
    In your opinion, will this work?
    Looks like it will do.. I'd agree with the others and brush on a light coat of WD-40...

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