586,009 active members*
4,941 visitors online*
Register for free
Login
IndustryArena Forum > MetalWorking Machines > Benchtop Machines > RF-45 Clone Mill > ghetto tension compression via bi-directionally sprung quill, ...funny but true
Results 1 to 3 of 3
  1. #1
    Join Date
    Apr 2015
    Posts
    7

    ghetto tension compression via bi-directionally sprung quill, ...funny but true

    like i said, ghetto but it worked, lol . I'm sure it's been done before, but I couldn't find it on a search.

    enjoy the laugh:


    ...pardon the "crunchy" noise that happens on slow Z moves, sounds MUCH worse than it really is....
    Down and dirty tapping method allowing axial float via Quill movement. Watch the red quill travel indicator make up for discrepancies in head Z feed vs tap feed. For the tension part I loosed the quill clock spring tension. For the compression spring I just put some springs in between the quill "clamp" and the head...stacked on top of a socket to keep it as rube-goldberg as possible. ;-) I have a versatapper, but there are some reasons a tension compression method worked better than a clutch type when wanting to use the CNC Z feed rather than hand feeding the quill. Notice at 0:29 where Z head feed was stopped and spindle coasted to a stop,pitch- pulling the quill down . So there was some unwanted Z movement in the tap that the quill tension spring made up for. Then the tap spun in the chuck a bit. This was just an experiment.

    5/15-18 tap . Head down feed at 95% of pitch induced feed (4.75 ipm vs 5 ipm), 90 rpm
    (ideally different rate for out/upfeed..but forgot)

    g00
    m3
    g1 z-1.1 f4.75
    m5
    g4 p3
    m4
    g1 z.1
    m5



  2. #2

    Re: ghetto tension compression via bi-directionally sprung quill, ...funny but true

    Rusty, Great post! The tap slipping in the chuck is a good thing. I've tapped this way for a long time and the tap slipping will save you from breaking one off. Took a little while to get the feel for tightening the chuck just enough but I've not broken a tap in a very long time.

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Apr 2015
    Posts
    7

    Re: ghetto tension compression via bi-directionally sprung quill, ...funny but true

    just noticed many typos in my post, but too late to edit - oh well, the idea still comes across, it just sounds like i have bad grammar/spelling & i have some very special tap diameters, lol.

    I also configured Mach 3 to have about a 1.5 second delay between every M3,M4,M5 to allow for coasting to a full stop before reversing.

    IMPORTANT: I eventually used a proper T-C tap holder ... I DID have a problem with the motor tapping many holes per hour this way ...about 300/hr...it would become sporadically unreliable reversing and starting and would sometimes trip the breaker. Then I found out these capacitor start motors are not rated for nearly that amount of starts/per time.

    I switched to my tapping head, but this would work in a less duty cycle intense situation,or with a different type of motor.

Similar Threads

  1. Tension / Compression Tapping
    By Praymond1209 in forum Tormach Personal CNC Mill
    Replies: 10
    Last Post: 09-05-2012, 03:41 PM
  2. Tension compression tap head.
    By Boss&Sons LLC in forum Tormach Personal CNC Mill
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 07-09-2012, 04:53 PM
  3. Replies: 5
    Last Post: 01-26-2010, 02:07 AM
  4. Tension & Compression tapping
    By cnc steve in forum MetalWork Discussion
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 04-04-2009, 11:10 AM
  5. Tension/compression tap holders
    By Caprirs in forum MetalWork Discussion
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 04-05-2007, 01:59 PM

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •