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  1. #21
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    Re: Vista CNC pendant and PP

    So did you ever get it working?
    Tim
    Tormach 1100-3, Grizzly G0709 lathe, Clausing 8520 mill, SolidWorks, HSMWorks.

  2. #22
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    Re: Vista CNC pendant and PP

    I have not received anything recently from JustinHoMi. I'm certainly willing to try most anything. It only takes a few minutes to re-install PP on a spare machine.

  3. #23
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    Re: Vista CNC pendant and PP

    Quote Originally Posted by kstrauss View Post
    I have not received anything recently from JustinHoMi. I'm certainly willing to try most anything. It only takes a few minutes to re-install PP on a spare machine.
    Sorry I haven't had a chance to respond. I plan on helping... I just have to finish a couple projects first. If anyone else has a pendant and wants to give me remote access to the machine, I think I could get it working pretty quickly. It's just slow any other way.

  4. #24
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    Re: Vista CNC pendant and PP

    I would be interested but I don't have a wifi connection for my Tormach controller, and am nowhere near where I can get an ethernet cable.
    Tim
    Tormach 1100-3, Grizzly G0709 lathe, Clausing 8520 mill, SolidWorks, HSMWorks.

  5. #25
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    Re: Vista CNC pendant and PP

    Will this work on the new release, v1.9?

  6. #26
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    Re: Vista CNC pendant and PP

    Don't know, but could it be that Tormach is dragging their heels to protect sales of their pendant lite? I'm a lot of guys, myself included, who haven't gone with PP because it doesn't support the Vista.

  7. #27
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    Re: Vista CNC pendant and PP

    Quote Originally Posted by JustinHoMi View Post
    Ah man! I really wanted to make some parts while he wasn't looking. Oh well....

    Anyways, let's install the hal_input extension. This is part of the normal linuxcnc distribution, and interfaces with USB HID devices like your pendant. There are two files: hal_input and linux_event.py. The following instructions assume you have PP setup as a PCNC 1100 controller. Do this from the command prompt (control-alt-x):

    Code:
    1. cd /tmp; wget http://justinmitchell.net/pp/hal_input.tbz    (if you don't have internet access, copy this to a usb drive, plugin, then type "cp ~/gcode/USB/hal_input.tbz /tmp")
    2. tar jxvf hal_input.tbz   
    3. cd hal_input
    4. cp hal_input ~/tmc/bin/  
    5. cp linux_event.py ~/tmc/lib/python/
    The files are now in place, but you need to edit a config file to load the extension. If you're not familiar with editing text files on linux, I recommend the "pico" text editor. It's easier to use than some of the others.

    Code:
    6. pico ~/tmc/configs/tormach_mill/tormach_mill_5i25.hal
    7. Use the arrow keys to scroll down to line 32 (just below "loadusr -W usbio")
    8. Type:   loadusr -W hal_input -KRAL VistaCNC 
    9. control-o (to save)
    10. control-x (to quit)
    11. sudo reboot
    If you get errors upon reboot, it means that you (or me ) made a typo in one of the previous steps. No biggie... just hit control-alt-x and check everything. Or you can just install the 1.8.2 update and start over.

    Assuming there are no errors, type "admin halmeter" at the MDI prompt. This brings up a list of all the pins, signals, and parameters in PP. Scroll down and find the ones that look like "input.0.x". If these exist, then it means hal_input has successfully loaded. Each of these inputs correspond to a button/knob on the pendant. Try clicking on several and hitting buttons on your pendant and see if the output value changes. There's no need to do this for all of them... I just want to make sure that it is working.

    Next I'm going to have you save this list to a text file. First attach a USB thumb drive to the computer.

    Now open up a command prompt (control-alt-x) and type:

    Code:
    LD_LIBRARY_PATH=~/tmc/lib ~/tmc/bin/halcmd show > ~/gcode/USB/halshow.txt
    Now take that drive to another computer and attach the list to a post here.
    I'm at a total loss here. I'm running 1.8.2, I've triple checked everything, but I keep getting errors when I reboot. All the necessary files are copied in the right place, but the second I make a change to tormach_mill_5i25.hal I get an error and a prompt to reinstall a PathPilot upgrade.

  8. #28
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    Re: Vista CNC pendant and PP

    I had the same result and JustinHoMi suggested that it might be a result of differences between the 1100 and 770 version of PP (I have a 770). I haven't yet tried with v1.9

  9. #29
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    Re: Vista CNC pendant and PP

    Quote Originally Posted by kstrauss View Post
    I had the same result and JustinHoMi suggested that it might be a result of differences between the 1100 and 770 version of PP (I have a 770). I haven't yet tried with v1.9
    I've been trying it on an 1100 with no luck, so we can rule that out as the cause!

  10. #30
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    Re: Vista CNC pendant and PP

    I queried VistaCNC's tech support and received the following email reply:

    "We are working on the driver right now, will have it in few weeks."

    And, yes, I offered to be a beta tester. Maybe there is hope! It probably wouldn't hurt for others, particularly potential pendant purchasers, to let them know of your interest.

  11. #31
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    Re: Vista CNC pendant and PP

    Is there any news on getting the Vista pendant to work with Pathpilot??
    mike sr

  12. #32
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    Re: Vista CNC pendant and PP

    Mike,

    From Vista, as of July 19, 2015: "We are working on the driver right now, will have it in few weeks." It would seem Vista is not interested in working with PP. We've been orphaned.
    Entropy Sucks

  13. #33
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    Re: Vista CNC pendant and PP

    They have a driver and instructions on their website for usage with LinuxCNC. It requires a re-flash of the ROM in the pendant. I've been too busy with other work to attempt to get it to work plus I'm not comfortable making changes on Linux.

  14. #34
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    Re: Vista CNC pendant and PP

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnToner View Post
    Mike,

    From Vista, as of July 19, 2015: "We are working on the driver right now, will have it in few weeks." It would seem Vista is not interested in working with PP. We've been orphaned.
    I have one of those gathering dust as well John.............Hope you are enjoying your retirement!
    mike sr

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    Re: Vista CNC pendant and PP

    Mike,

    I want to go back to work so I can get some rest!
    Entropy Sucks

  16. #36
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    Re: Vista CNC pendant and PP

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnToner View Post
    Mike,

    I want to go back to work so I can get some rest!
    haha I know the feeling......"retirement" from "regular job" has brought me 12 ,14 , 18 hour days but now no complaining about "bad management"

    haha whats happening with the Vista pendant in PP ?

    Thanks
    Dave

  17. #37
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    Re: Vista CNC pendant and PP

    Has anybody gotten this to work?

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    Re: Vista CNC pendant and PP

    Quote Originally Posted by 79rallysport View Post
    Has anybody gotten this to work?
    Any progress? I'm trying to do this per instructions downloaded from VistaCNC, and am having same troubles cited above.

  19. #39
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    Re: Vista CNC pendant and PP

    Quote Originally Posted by alames View Post
    Any progress? I'm trying to do this per instructions downloaded from VistaCNC, and am having same troubles cited above.
    I'e been trying to create a video but it's taking me MUCH longer than the implementation did. My answer to your question is yes, I have made some progress, almost all the features of a P2-S are working, but the bad news is that I had to modify several PP functions in the progress. I'll put more prio on the video - watch this space....
    Step

  20. #40
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    Re: Vista CNC pendant and PP

    Quote Originally Posted by TurboStep View Post
    I'e been trying to create a video but it's taking me MUCH longer than the implementation did.
    your rock! Looking forward to it!
    Tim
    Tormach 1100-3, Grizzly G0709 lathe, Clausing 8520 mill, SolidWorks, HSMWorks.

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