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  1. #1
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    Milltronics Lathe Post

    I recently bought a ML-20 lathe with Centurion 6 controls. Does anyone have experience with BobCad post. Is it good out of the box,need a little work, need a lot of work? Any comments,help, or an accurate post would be welcome.
    Thanks, Terry

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    Re: Milltronics Lathe Post

    Hey Podunk, I am getting a ML-20 in a week or so. I bought the Bobcad cam software as well. This will be my first experience with a cnc lathe. I have managed to do a couple of programs in the bobcam which was pretty easy to figure out.
    I hope you don't mind if I tag along on this topic as I'm sure it will help me as well.

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    Re: Milltronics Lathe Post

    PTMINC,
    I'll be glad to share info I get any info I get about BobCad posts and programing. It's the only cadcam software I ever used,but I like it. It's a lot smarter than me. Milltronics has a 2 day training course in November, I think, might go. I've talked to their support team several times, very helpful. I'm in NW Indiana. Where are you?

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    Re: Milltronics Lathe Post

    Thank you Podunk, I'm in West Tennessee.

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    Re: Milltronics Lathe Post

    Hi Terry, would you mind sharing how you transfer your programs to your machine, IE RS232, Floppy Emulator...etc?

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    Re: Milltronics Lathe Post

    PTMINC, I plan on doing programs with Bobcad. Transfer files to lathe via Pro Comm commutation software and RS232 cable. This setup worked good on my old LeBlond with GE 1050 control. The Bobcad post was close so I just edited
    it. The Milltronics control is MUCH more complicated so I want an accurate post. What ever I find out I'll pass it along. Milltronics support has been very helpful. I'm going to see if they will tell me what needs to be corrected and then send a post edit request to Bobcad.

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    Re: Milltronics Lathe Post

    Quote Originally Posted by Podunk View Post
    PTMINC, I plan on doing programs with Bobcad. Transfer files to lathe via Pro Comm commutation software and RS232 cable. This setup worked good on my old LeBlond with GE 1050 control. The Bobcad post was close so I just edited
    it. The Milltronics control is MUCH more complicated so I want an accurate post. What ever I find out I'll pass it along. Milltronics support has been very helpful. I'm going to see if they will tell me what needs to be corrected and then send a post edit request to Bobcad.
    Hey Terry, I finally got my machine delivered and powered up. Now the fun begins. I was wondering if you have tried out your post yet? I have some programs I did in bobcam and have them posted, I'm ready to send them to the machine, but I have to get the tool offsets set-up. I know just enough now to make a mess. Hope your doing better.

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    Re: Milltronics Lathe Post

    I did a program and and was going to try to transfer it to lathe today. BUT, the lathe would not home. My tech guy thinks it is a simple problem and is coming tomorrow. Let you know what happens.
    Terry

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    Re: Milltronics Lathe Post

    Quote Originally Posted by Podunk View Post
    I did a program and and was going to try to transfer it to lathe today. BUT, the lathe would not home. My tech guy thinks it is a simple problem and is coming tomorrow. Let you know what happens.
    Terry
    Hi Terry, I managed to turn, face groove and thread a small piece today out of delrin. So far I've found that the bobcam post does not pick up the pecking settings in Bobcam. It also does not post the threading depth increments.
    Also I programmed my lay-down thread insert to thread within .030 of a shoulder but it stops way short of the shoulder. I was glad to get something off the machine today but looks like a lot of tweaking.

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    Re: Milltronics Lathe Post

    Quote Originally Posted by PTMINC View Post


    Hi Terry, I managed to turn, face groove and thread a small piece today out of delrin. So far I've found that the bobcam post does not pick up the pecking settings in Bobcam. It also does not post the threading depth increments.
    Also I programmed my lay-down thread insert to thread within .030 of a shoulder but it stops way short of the shoulder. I was glad to get something off the machine today but looks like a lot of tweaking.
    The Bobcam DOES post the settings properly, I was running a previous program, forgot to make the new program the active program. The PP doesn't seem to me to need any major editing.

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    Re: Milltronics Lathe Post

    Quote Originally Posted by Podunk View Post
    PTMINC,
    I'll be glad to share info I get any info I get about BobCad posts and programing. It's the only cadcam software I ever used,but I like it. It's a lot smarter than me. Milltronics has a 2 day training course in November, I think, might go. I've talked to their support team several times, very helpful. I'm in NW Indiana. Where are you?
    Terry,
    Are you running yet? I'm wondering if you have tried threading anything using the Bobcam thread cycle. I tried it and the threads look really bad as you can see in the picture I posted. I was afraid it was the machine but when I used the machine threading routine the threads looked great. I don't know enough about the gcode to see the problem.

    Would you mind looking at this prg. to see if you see anything?
    %
    O0100 ( PROGRAM NUMBER )
    ( PROGRAM START - TURNING CYCLES )
    ( PROGRAM NAME: TREAD TEST.NC)
    ( POST: CENTURION 6T )
    ( DATE: MON. 09/07/2015)
    ( TIME: 08:49AM)
    N01 G99
    N02 G93
    N03 G80
    N04 G40
    N05 G20
    N06 G00 G28 U0. W0.
    (Machine Setup - 1 Lathe Thread )
    (TOOL #4 )
    N07 T0404 M06
    N08 G50 S1000
    N09 G97 S500 M03
    N10 G00 G54 X.572 Z-.281 M08
    N11 Z-.3013
    N12 G01 X.3485 F.0417
    N13 G32 Z-.63
    N14 G00 X.572
    N15 Z-.3141
    N16 G01 X.3338 F.0417
    N17 G32 Z-.63
    N18 G00 X.572
    N19 Z-.3218
    N20 G01 X.3249 F.0417
    N21 G32 Z-.63
    N22 G00 X.572
    N23 Z-.324
    N24 G01 X.3223 F.0417
    N25 G32 Z-.63
    N26 G00 X.572
    N27 Z-.324
    N28 G01 X.3223
    N29 G32 Z-.63 F.0417
    N30 G00 X.572
    N31 X10.
    N32 Z5.
    N33 G40
    N34 M09
    N35 G97
    N36 T0400
    N37 M01
    N38 M05
    N39 G28 U0. W0.
    N40 M30

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    Re: Milltronics Lathe Post

    PTMINC,
    I checked each line of code against Milltronics list in their manual. Looks good. The thing that I noticed was the amount of in feed per pass. Looked to aggressive for me. Could account for rough finish. How did you load program into machine? Did you have to delete % sign and/or Header info in (xxxx)?
    Terry

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    Re: Milltronics Lathe Post

    Quote Originally Posted by Podunk View Post
    PTMINC,
    I checked each line of code against Milltronics list in their manual. Looks good. The thing that I noticed was the amount of in feed per pass. Looked to aggressive for me. Could account for rough finish. How did you load program into machine? Did you have to delete % sign and/or Header info in (xxxx)?
    Terry
    It turns out I was using the wrong feed in selection in Bobcam I was using the 60 deg. When I plotted the points in autocad it showed the rough path. I tried the 30 deg selection, plotted the points and it looks good. I'm going to try a part again in the morning.
    I loaded the program using the Predator software that came with the Bobcam. All I did was make a cable and it worked the first time with no changes.
    Also did you get your homing problem fixed?

    Thanks for taking a look I appreciate it.
    Scott

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    Re: Milltronics Lathe Post

    Scott,
    Milltronics showed me a way around homing problem. Just now loaded a BobCad program with ProComm. Now to set tools, part 0 and hope to make chips.
    Terry

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