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  1. #1
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    Usable Laptop?

    Hi all,

    I would like to use a laptop with a small cnc machine running Turbocnc and Xylotex drives.

    Can anyone who is using a laptop with their cnc machine let me know what laptop they are using? Main reason I am asking is I don’t know which makes will supply the 5V from the printer port for the drives. Also am looking to buy a cheap second hand one.

    Do old laptops have the 5V?

    Any info will be very much appreciated.

    Thanks,

    John

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    5 volts on laptops

    I believe that virtually all laptops have the 5 v on the parallel interface.

    The limiting factor for parallel interface in the amperage that they will carry. Given the wire size, contact, rating, blah blah, etc, the most you can expect is several hundred milliwatts.


    I read their product PDFs and their linear power supply example. Yes they are calling for an extra power lead. They are using it for a reference. I am having a blonde moment, but, I don't see why they aren't getting it from the parallel cable.


    Par Port | DB25 > DB25 | IDC25 > 26 pin HDR
    PC case XYLOTEX


    The 5V power on the parallel interface should be go all the way through to the Xylotex board. The only thing that I can think of is that there may be too much voltage drop. I would e-mail their support person for clairification or a workaround.






    Hope this helps.
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    Thanks rancherbill for your input much appreciated.

    John

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    I use a laptop and have measured the voltage at the LPT as 3.3v

    The BOB I use and I presume most others buffers the outputs, so it takes care of that issue.

    There are other however issues to consider when using Mach on a laptop. It runs through windoze.

    TurboCNC runs Dos so I'm pretty sure those same issues do not apply to it.

    I remember a while ago someone was selling an old style of touch pad computer, very basic by todays
    standard, to specificaly run TurboCNC. So demands can not be too great.

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    I used a aprox. 4 year old laptop, a compaq evo n1015v.
    The output at the LPT is 5v.

    It runs Mach and turbocnc and even emc.

    I believe most pentiumIII/IV and amd athlonXP/duron laptops have 5v.
    The newer ones like the centrino most likely have 3v3.

    One thing I find annoying is that the screen goes black after 30 min. of no user input (keyboard, mouse) and this causes missing steps.
    This happens under DOS, Windows and Linux.

    This is the main reason why I changed to a destop model.
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    I have at present a p4 2.6gig laptop but cannot use it with my cnc because of low voltage or current (not sure which as I have not tested it). I also do not have a bob board that will buffer the in/out puts.

    I would use a bob that would buffer the port but cannot find one in the UK. If anyone knows of one would appreciate a link.

    Thanks you for your help,

    John

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    John I gather from some of your posts that you don't have your machine built yet.

    If it is still a little way off you may be able to wait for the ncPod to become available.

    It is the new offering from DeskCNC and produces the pulses externaly. No LPT needed. USB 2.0

    Nowhere near the demand on the PC that Mach pulsing driver makes.

    Art is writing a plugin for Mach to run it and when that is done it will become a very usefull device for us hobby types.

    Less capable than a Grex but a fraction of the price also. $125 I've heard. Thats not much more than a good BOB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greolt View Post
    John I gather from some of your posts that you don't have your machine built yet.

    If it is still a little way off you may be able to wait for the ncPod to become available.

    It is the new offering from DeskCNC and produces the pulses externaly. No LPT needed. USB 2.0

    Nowhere near the demand on the PC that Mach pulsing driver makes.

    Art is writing a plugin for Mach to run it and when that is done it will become a very usefull device for us hobby types.

    Less capable than a Grex but a fraction of the price also. $125 I've heard. Thats not much more than a good BOB.
    Hi and thanks for the info,

    I have a cnc router self built (using a PC with this), but have also made a smaller machine for PCB milling and the like. I want a laptop to control it so it will take up less space.

    John

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    I have a Dell Latitude 1GHz PIII bought used off eBay for $300.00 and it runs Mach3 fine.
    Halfnutz

    (Note: The opinions expressed in this post are my own and are not necessarily those of CNCzone and its management)

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    Thanks Halfnutz, anyone else?

    John

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldmanandhistoy View Post
    ....................I want a laptop to control it so it will take up less space.
    John the point I tried to make was that the ncPod should work no problems with any notebook that has USB 2.0

    Much less asked of the PC (notebooks are PCs) when it does not have to generate the precise timed pulses. :banana:

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    Dell latitude, PentiumII-400Mhz, WinXP - $200 used.
    running Mach2, BOB, Geckos for 2 years now... never a glitch
    If it ain't broke... fix it 'til it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greolt View Post
    John the point I tried to make was that the ncPod should work no problems with any notebook that has USB 2.0

    Much less asked of the PC (notebooks are PCs) when it does not have to generate the precise timed pulses. :banana:
    I understand what you are saying but like you said it is some time off yet. I am looking for a solution for now but thank you for the input.

    John

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    Quote Originally Posted by rc-cellar View Post
    Dell latitude, PentiumII-400Mhz, WinXP - $200 used.
    running Mach2, BOB, Geckos for 2 years now... never a glitch
    Hi and thanks for the info.

    Does your bob buffer the parallel port?

    John

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    Yes I have the Axxus-VB1 board and it is buffered; but they have since gone out of business. The cnc4pc board would do the trick... cheap too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rc-cellar View Post
    Yes I have the Axxus-VB1 board and it is buffered; but they have since gone out of business. The cnc4pc board would do the trick... cheap too.

    Thank you for your time.

    John

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    If you were to go into the BIOS settings and turn off all power saving options (they're there to conserve battery power) the problem would probably go away.
    Dave

    Quote Originally Posted by jerber View Post
    I used a aprox. 4 year old laptop, a compaq evo n1015v.

    One thing I find annoying is that the screen goes black after 30 min. of no user input (keyboard, mouse) and this causes missing steps.
    This happens under DOS, Windows and Linux.

    This is the main reason why I changed to a destop model.
    Schneider Machine
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    I tried that but it didn't work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jerber View Post
    I tried that but it didn't work.
    That's to bad, something is/was telling it to sleep or reduce power. There had to be a way to tell it it's always on. When it did it in DOS, was it a clean boot to dos or running under a window?

    Dave
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