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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Switcher View Post
    JLT,

    I really like that ATC.

    I was looking at the site you posted http://www.hightechsystemsllc.com/index.htm , I understand how the tool (endmill, etc...) keeps from slipping in the holders, with a small set screw.

    How does the holder keep from slipping (rotating), in the actual toolchanger? The toolchanger does not look like it would provide enough clamping preasure to keep the tool holder from slipping, I don't see any type of flat on the toolholder to give a positive stop. I may be wrong, I'm just really interested in that product (toolchanger).

    It looks like you have a great setup going on in that video!

    Any chance of a longer video, with some cutting and maybe a couple of toolchanges?

    Also did you see the "Drill Chuck Holder" they have? http://www.hightechsystemsllc.com/in...es/Page513.htm

    Thanks for sharing your cool project.





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    Working on a longer video.
    Didn't see the Drill Chuck. Thanks

  2. #22
    Great thanks!


    David

    Quote Originally Posted by JLT View Post
    I have the DXF file i can post later.

  3. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by bp092 View Post
    Wow I'm blown away. Your router looks cool and colossal in some of the pics. The automatic tool changer & video is extremely impressive. Joe should be thrilled when he sees it. One question, I'm assuming when you change tools in production, for two different kinds of cuts you would include that in the gcode. Assuming that it's running, makes it's passes, pulls back to the tool dock and shuts off before or during. But how does your router know when the spindle on your hitachi has fully stopped before it can release that bit and grab a new one or do you just set a certain amount of time? Thanks!
    Router shuts off befor pulling back.
    Video will show this.

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  5. #25
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    Ok, I am VERY Imperseed, I love what you have done with the machine, from the drawer slides, cable carrier's, Tool Changer, and the top cover over bearings., you have to get me info on the tool changer... lol

    This is what I love about this community, people taking things and helping others, and improving the DIY and allowing the average peoson to have so much fun.

    You got to love it.

  6. #26
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    Wow thanks for the videos. What are you running for a controller and steppers? IPM? Nice work.

  7. #27
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    Great videos JLT, thanks for posting. If you want you can post more, I never get tired of these gizmo's at work.

    Any issues with the length of the tool changer causing the router or gantry to shift during deep cuts?

    Jason

  8. #28
    I am really impressed with the ATC. I have the quick changer on my Sherline mill including the drill chuck and they are really well made. I believe you can get 1/2" shank adapter from High Tech Systems see here http://www.hightechsystemsllc.com/in...es/Page993.htm which I think should work okay with the Hitachi router.

  9. #29
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    JLT,

    Thanks for the longer videos, that answered all my questions. Now I can add that toolchanger to my parts list!

    You get my vote, for "Best CNC Machine" of the year!




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    Quote Originally Posted by David Da Costa View Post
    I am really impressed with the ATC. I have the quick changer on my Sherline mill including the drill chuck and they are really well made. I believe you can get 1/2" shank adapter from High Tech Systems see here http://www.hightechsystemsllc.com/in...es/Page993.htm which I think should work okay with the Hitachi router.
    Thanks for the info on the "1/2" shank adapter", I looked at that page, & didn't notice that 1/2” could be ordered.

    http://www.hightechsystemsllc.com/in...es/Page993.htm

    Call if you need a 1/2” shank adapter instead of 3/8”.



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  11. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by David Da Costa View Post
    I am really impressed with the ATC. I have the quick changer on my Sherline mill including the drill chuck and they are really well made. I believe you can get 1/2" shank adapter from High Tech Systems see here http://www.hightechsystemsllc.com/in...es/Page993.htm which I think should work okay with the Hitachi router.
    I see that now. That would have saved me allot of time but I had fun making my own.

  12. #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by bp092 View Post
    Wow thanks for the videos. What are you running for a controller and steppers? IPM? Nice work.

    Xylotex
    XS-3525/8S-3
    3 DS/DS 269 oz.in. Steppers
    24VDC 5.0A Power Supply
    24VDC Fan

    Rapids about 70 IPM but I rearly cut above 40 IPM.

    This was built on a budget (Small one) so lead screws are all-thread from Tractor Supply, cheep (by the pound bolts) from TS etc.
    Total cost with controller, old 266 computer. $900

  13. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason Marsha View Post
    Great videos JLT, thanks for posting. If you want you can post more, I never get tired of these gizmo's at work.

    Any issues with the length of the tool changer causing the router or gantry to shift during deep cuts?

    Jason
    Not so far but I don't take deep cuts.

  14. #34
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    How fast have you spun that tool changer. Seems a little large for 20,000+ rpm.
    Gerry

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    Mach3 2010 Screenset
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    (Note: The opinions expressed in this post are my own and are not necessarily those of CNCzone and its management)

  15. #35
    I have been in communication with Derick at High Tech Systems and he confirms some of the possible dangers at spinning at such high speeds.

    Here is what he says.

    "The rapid changer is only guaranteed to 10,000rpm. The spring will will possibly come off after that speed. I have some heavy duty
    springs that increase the pressure and should be able to hold up to the higher RPMs and horsepower. I have a 1/2" adapter for the Taig that screws on. You will need to take all responsibility for safety. I recommend a Plexiglass shield around the router in case something goes wrong.

    I have been working on a ATC for the Rapid Changer for awhile now. I need to finish machining parts to see if it will work or need design changes. Goals have been durable, affordable, simple to use and require no outside electronics or air. I haven't reached all the goals yet."


    His ATC that he is working on sounds very interesting.

    David

  16. #36
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    I just got the same email, lol.
    Gerry

    UCCNC 2017 Screenset
    http://www.thecncwoodworker.com/2017.html

    Mach3 2010 Screenset
    http://www.thecncwoodworker.com/2010.html

    JointCAM - CNC Dovetails & Box Joints
    http://www.g-forcecnc.com/jointcam.html

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  17. #37
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    ATC photos.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails DSC00433.jpg   DSC00434.jpg   DSC00435.jpg  

  18. #38
    Very nice JLT

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Da Costa View Post
    JLT, I think you forgot to attach the photo's
    Don't know what happened. Had to edit.


    More ATC photos.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails DSC00436.jpg   DSC00437.jpg   DSC00438.jpg  

  20. #40
    Very clever using a ground down c-clip.

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