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  1. #1
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    Help with Rigid Tapping on Sub-Spindle

    Can anyone help me on being able to rigid tap using the sub-spindle.
    Machine is a Mori-Seiki SL150SMC (Fanuc 18). I am able to rigid tap
    using the main spindle by M329 and then a G84 cycle. Fanuc manual
    says rigid tapping is available for the "second" spindle if control
    has the multi-spindle control option - which I am positive this machine
    has. Also states spindle used for rigid tapping is based on values in
    G027 bit 0 and bit 1 (Both are 1, changing bit 0 to 0 would indicate to
    use the sub-spindle. A review of the ladder doesn't show any reference
    to G027. Anyone know how to change this to enable rigid tapping on the
    sub-spindle?

    Thanks

  2. #2
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    Re: Help with Rigid Tapping on Sub-Spindle

    G027 might be changed in a function block or with a coil. Have you searched the ladder for both?
    Search G027 for function block
    W-Search G027.0/1 for coil.

  3. #3
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    Re: Help with Rigid Tapping on Sub-Spindle

    Quote Originally Posted by STLMachinist View Post
    G027 might be changed in a function block or with a coil. Have you searched the ladder for both?
    Search G027 for function block
    W-Search G027.0/1 for coil.
    Thanks for the reply...

    The spindle selection signals SWS1 & SWS2 are G027.0 and G027.1.
    After searching the ladder, unfortunately both G027.0 and G027.1 are
    "latched" to an internal relay of R48.0 which is logic "1" for the entire ladder.

    The only other route I can see may help is changing parameter 5200.7 (SRS)
    to 1 so that the rigid tapping spindle selections signals (RGTSP1 & RGTSP2)
    are used instead of SWS1 & SWS2.

    RGTSP1 and RGTSP2 are G061.4 & G061.5.

    The roadblock now is G061.4 & G061.5 aren't even in the current ladder.
    Is there anyway to add to the ladder a 'latch' of G061.5 to R048.0 (logic "1)".
    If I could do this, then when parameter 5200.7 is 0, the SWS1 & SWS2
    signals would be used, and thus rigid tap with the main spindle.
    When parameter 5200.7 is 1, the RGTSP1 & RGTSP2 signals would be
    used, and thus rigid tap with the sub-spindle.

    Thanks,

  4. #4
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    Re: Help with Rigid Tapping on Sub-Spindle

    R48.0 doesn't have a rung of it's own? Weird.

    What do you have in PRM 9936?

  5. #5
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    Re: Help with Rigid Tapping on Sub-Spindle

    Quote Originally Posted by STLMachinist View Post
    R48.0 doesn't have a rung of it's own? Weird.

    What do you have in PRM 9936?
    I appreciate your help....

    Parameter 9936 is: 1 0 1 1 1 1 0 0

    bit 0 - 0
    bit 1 - 0
    bit 2 - 1
    bit 3 - 1
    bit 4 - 1
    bit 5 - 1
    bit 6 - 0
    bit 7 - 1

    Thx...

  6. #6
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    Re: Help with Rigid Tapping on Sub-Spindle

    OK, just wanted to verify you did, in fact, have multi spindle control. What happens when you command the sub-spindle with M329 G84?

    Also,
    What is parameter 3709.2? 3701.4?

  7. #7
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    Re: Help with Rigid Tapping on Sub-Spindle

    Quote Originally Posted by STLMachinist View Post
    OK, just wanted to verify you did, in fact, have multi spindle control. What happens when you command the sub-spindle with M329 G84?

    Also,
    What is parameter 3709.2? 3701.4?
    Thank you for your reply....

    This is the sequence when rigid tapping
    (right hand threads) on the main spindle
    (works very well).
    (1/2-14 NPT)

    G0 X0.0 Z0.750
    G0 Z0.050
    M329 S65
    G84 Z-0.940 P500 F0.0714
    G80
    G0 X0.0 Z0.750
    G0 G28 U0
    ....etc.

    If I add an M203 to the M329 S65 line,
    the subspindle will come on and rotate at
    65 rpm until the Z-axis reaches -0.940, then
    the main spindle comes on (sub-spindle stops
    and does not rotate) when retracting the tap.
    (I don't think either spindle is "rigid tap" sync'd
    to the z axis during this, but the main spindle
    may be on retraction just not sure)

    Parameter 3709.2 = 1 (MSI)
    Parameter 3701.4 = 1 (SS2)

    Thanks again for all of your help....

  8. #8
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    Re: Help with Rigid Tapping on Sub-Spindle

    Did you get this figured out. I am having the same issue on an identical machine

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