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  1. #1
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    Mori Seiki MV45 Yasnac MX1 Help Please

    Can anyone here please explain how to set work coorinadinants on this control ?

    It has been kicking my ass for the last few days.

    We bought this machine used with no manuals "yet".

    I'm familiar with the Fanuc style programming using G54-G59 and I would like to stay with this format but I am not sure if the MX1 control supports it.

    I think that at the time the machine was built it was an option and I am not positive that it is on the machine.

    From what I can tell, you can load coordinants into the machine parameters #6516 etc. to tell the machine G54-G59 etc values.

    What values do you load ? ( machine position values ? )

    But how else would you tell the machine where the part is ?

    G92 ? I'm not familiar with this code and have heard alot of bad things about it.

    Please help.
    Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by premier_industr View Post
    Can anyone here please explain how to set work coorinadinants on this control ?

    It has been kicking my ass for the last few days.

    We bought this machine used with no manuals "yet".

    I'm familiar with the Fanuc style programming using G54-G59 and I would like to stay with this format but I am not sure if the MX1 control supports it.

    I think that at the time the machine was built it was an option and I am not positive that it is on the machine.

    From what I can tell, you can load coordinants into the machine parameters #6516 etc. to tell the machine G54-G59 etc values.

    What values do you load ? ( machine position values ? )

    But how else would you tell the machine where the part is ?

    G92 ? I'm not familiar with this code and have heard alot of bad things about it.

    Please help.
    Thank you.


    Ok I had to do some digging and found my setup information on an MX2 that should be close to what you have.

    First thing first. Write a Program that will send the Machine Home at Morning Startup

    O0099
    (MATSUURA YASNAC MX2)
    (SEND MATSUURA CNC HOME)
    (SET RAPID AT 25 PERCENT)
    (PRESS CYCLE START)
    (AFTER HOME POSITION)
    (G92 X0 Y0 Z0 IS SET)
    (CHECK POINT G55 CENTER)
    (RE-CHECK BACK HOME)
    (RUNS WARMUP PGM)
    (RUN ONE TIME)

    G0G17G40G49G80G90M5

    G91G28Z0M9
    G91G28Y0
    G91G28X0

    G92X0Y0Z0

    G90G55G0X0Y0

    G91G28Z0
    G91G28X0
    G91G28Y0

    M98P9999

    M30



    Next to set G54-G59 you go to the SETTING Page Hard Button.

    Edge find your part and Insert The Machine Position Page Numbers Without Decimals.

    G54 X=#6516 Y=#6517 Z=#6518 A=#6519

    ex #6516 = -10.5000 inches = enter -105000
    ex #6517 = -5.6743 inches = enter -56743
    ex #6518 = -17.5678 inches = enter -175678

    G55 X=#6522 Y=#6523 Z=#6524 A=#6525
    G56 X=#6528 Y=#6529 Z=#6530 A=#6531
    G57 X=#6534 Y=#6535 Z=#6536 A=#6537
    G58 X=#6540 Y=#6541 Z=#6542 A=#6543
    G59 X=#6546 Y=#6547 Z=#6548 A=#6549

    To set G92 instead of G54-G59 you will input the XYZ Values of the Part Location from the Machine Position Page. These numbers will be in the begining of your NC Program like this

    G0G17G40G49G80G98M5
    G91G28Z0M9
    G92X-10.5Y5.6743Z-17.5678M19

    N1(TOOL DISCRIPTION)
    T1M6
    S5500M3
    G90G43G0X0Y0Z1.0H1
    Z.1M8
    G1Z-1.0F25.0
    G13I?J?K?Q?D?F?
    G0Z.1M9

    G0G40G80G98
    G91G28Z0M19
    G49

    You can also get more information from the Yasnac Site in PDF Files.

    http://www.yaskawa.com/site/Support....neSupport.html

    Cheers :cheers:
    Toby D.
    "Imagination and Memory are but one thing, but for divers considerations have divers names"
    Schwarzwald

    (Note: The opinions expressed in this post are my own and are not necessarily those of CNCzone and its management)

    www.refractotech.com

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    That was my problem.

    After referancing out the machine I should have been typing in G92 X0 Y0.

    Also found that after refing the machine, type in G52 X0 Y0.

    Pretty much the same code as the G92 but different.


    My next question, how do you start writing a new program into memmory ?

    For instance, on a Fanuc, in edit mode, type O1234 ( prg # ) and then ; ( EOB ) that gives you a new program to start writhing in.

    How do you do this on a Yasnac ?

    Thanks for all your help on the previous post.
    With out you help I would have gone nuts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by premier_industr View Post
    That was my problem.

    After referancing out the machine I should have been typing in G92 X0 Y0.

    Also found that after refing the machine, type in G52 X0 Y0.

    Pretty much the same code as the G92 but different.


    My next question, how do you start writing a new program into memmory ?

    For instance, on a Fanuc, in edit mode, type O1234 ( prg # ) and then ; ( EOB ) that gives you a new program to start writhing in.

    How do you do this on a Yasnac ?

    Thanks for all your help on the previous post.
    With out you help I would have gone nuts.

    Nuts???? That is the definition of being a Machinist, LOL. We have to be NUTS to be doing this for a living :rainfro:

    I'll really have to dig for that one. I used to write all my stuff with BCC V19 then use the RS232C Communications.

    BRB with some information for you.
    Toby D.
    "Imagination and Memory are but one thing, but for divers considerations have divers names"
    Schwarzwald

    (Note: The opinions expressed in this post are my own and are not necessarily those of CNCzone and its management)

    www.refractotech.com

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    Ok this might be it.

    EDT (Edit Mode Select Switch)
    Prog (Program Key)
    Letter "O" the Program #
    then the WR (WRITE) Key

    That should do it for you.

    You might have some other functions as well like G12/G13 Spiral/Helical Interpolation. Good for Milling Large Circular Pockets and Thread Milling.

    You have more Drilling Canned Cycles than a Fanuc too. These are Great if your Hand Coding

    Hole Pattern Cycles are as follows

    G70-Bolt Hole Circle

    G70 X? Y? I? J? L?

    XY- Positions are the Bolt Hole Center
    I- is the radius of the Bolt Circle
    J- the degree with the X axis within .001 of a degree accuracy
    L- the number of division of the Circumference CCW sequence positive numbers are programmed and vise versa

    Ex. of a 6 inch Bolt Circle 1/4-20 Tapped holes

    G83G99Z-.5R.1Q.2F5.5L0
    G70X0Y0I3.0J60.0L6

    G71-Arc Hole Pattern

    G71 X? Y? I? J? K? L?

    XY- the Arc Center Position
    I-Radius of the Arc Programmed with an accuracy of the least programmable increment.
    J-the Angular Position of the First hole.
    K-Angular spacing in degrees with .001 degree accuracy. Positive values are CCW and vise versa.
    L- number of holes to be set in positive numbers

    Ex.

    G83G99G90Z-.5R.1Q.2F5.5
    G71X0Y0I3.0J20.0K20L7

    G0G80G98M5
    G0G40M9T2
    G91G28Z0M19
    M6

    G72-Line at Angle Pattern

    G72 X? Y? I? J? L?

    XY-Coordinates of the start point (first hole)
    I-Interval is programmed in degrees within an accuracy of the least input increment
    J-Angles programmed in degrees with an accuracy of .001
    L-Number of hole to be drilled

    Ex.

    G83G99Z-.5R.1Q.2F5.5
    G72X1.Y1.I1.0J15.0L5


    You will have lots of fun with this machine.

    I have a question for you. Is this Machine a Matsuura?:rainfro:
    Toby D.
    "Imagination and Memory are but one thing, but for divers considerations have divers names"
    Schwarzwald

    (Note: The opinions expressed in this post are my own and are not necessarily those of CNCzone and its management)

    www.refractotech.com

  6. #6
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    O4321 then the WRite key ( slap my forehead )

    That makes plenty of sense I was typing O4321 and then alter or insert.
    ( that is what you would do on a Fanuc )
    Obviously I wasn't having any luck.

    You have been a tremendous help and I appreciate you helping me out.

    One other quick question for you.

    Is there any way, that when you are running a program you can get a split screenthat shows the program being run plus the machine locations / distance to go etc ?

    By the way this machine is a Mori Seiki MV45.
    Here is a machine similar to it listed on E-bay.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/MORI-SEIKI-MV-35...QQcmdZViewItem

    This machine is built like a tank !!

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    Boxed Ways !!!!!!!! You'll take some nice AGRESSIVE CUTS WITH THAT

    As far as I know there isn't a Split Screen. Sad that that is the Only Blunder in the entire Control.

    You have a PM :stickpoke
    Toby D.
    "Imagination and Memory are but one thing, but for divers considerations have divers names"
    Schwarzwald

    (Note: The opinions expressed in this post are my own and are not necessarily those of CNCzone and its management)

    www.refractotech.com

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