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  1. #1
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    Chatter movement/Jerky movement

    Hi ! I would need some help with my motors, They move very roughly and can't figure out why.

    I'm using Mach3 with Kelang KL5056D Drivers with a C10 Breakout Board + Ethernet Smooth Stepper.

    In jog i have a smooth movement. Only when I launch some G-Codes, my spindle is chattering way to much.

    I Tried to change some parameters ( Sherline Mode, Motors Acceleration, Pulse width to 5) etc. but no success....

    Please help me !

    Thank you very much !

  2. #2
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    Re: Chatter movement/Jerky movement

    Your probably in exact stop mode( G61), you want constant velocity mode "CV" (G64). If your g-code is not putting you in exact stop mode than its just a settings in Mach.

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    Re: Chatter movement/Jerky movement

    Hi Dan911 ! Thank you for your reply.

    How can I change that ? I use solidworks with HSMXPRESS.

    I Post Process my GCode via the HSMXpress addon.

    Help me please

  4. #4
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    Re: Chatter movement/Jerky movement

    Open Mach 3 and click on Config tab on top, than General config and look for Motion Mode. Make sure not on "Exact Stop" and choose "Constant Velocity".

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    Re: Chatter movement/Jerky movement

    Check your CV control settings and uncheck all. Also check your look ahead settings. What is your acceleration set to in motor tuning?

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    Re: Chatter movement/Jerky movement

    Look ahead is at 200 and every CV Settings are uncheck.

    Still chattering too much ... :/

    Thanks !

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    Re: Chatter movement/Jerky movement

    Make sure CV feederate is not on. Main screen settings ALT6

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    Re: Chatter movement/Jerky movement

    The CV FeedRate is not on either

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    Re: Chatter movement/Jerky movement

    Hmmm, when jogging smoothly and jerky when running code, what I posted for you to check is normally the cause. Here's a few more things to check.

    Does your g-code have a G61(exact stop) in the beginning?

    When running code but just cutting air does it still happen?

    Do you have the most recent updated plugin for your ESS?

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    Re: Chatter movement/Jerky movement

    Here is the beginning of my Gcode :
    (BLOCK_OFF_RUFF)
    (DECOUPE EXTERIEURE)
    (T1 D=0.125 CR=0. - ZMIN=-0.3461 - FRAISE 2 TAILLES)
    G90 G94 G91.1 G40 G49 G17
    G20
    G28 G91 Z0.
    G90

    (POCHE 2D1)
    M5
    M9
    T1 M6
    (2 FLUTE FLAT ENDMILL)
    S5000 M3
    G54
    M8
    G0 X0.4202 Y1.7784
    G43 Z0.6 H1
    Z0.2
    G1 Z0.1125 F20.
    G3 X0.4193 Y1.7786 Z0.1078 R0.0594
    X0.4168 Y1.7789 Z0.1038 R0.0594
    X0.4129 Y1.7793 Z0.1011 R0.0594
    X0.4082 Y1.7794 Z0.1 R0.0594
    X0.411 Y1.6606 Z0.0935 R0.0594
    X0.4082 Y1.7794 Z0.087 R0.0594
    X0.411 Y1.6606 Z0.0805 R0.0594
    X0.4082 Y1.7794 Z0.0739 R0.0594
    X0.411 Y1.6606 Z0.0674 R0.0594
    X0.4082 Y1.7794 Z0.0609 R0.0594
    X0.411 Y1.6606 Z0.0544 R0.0594
    X0.4082 Y1.7794 Z0.0479 R0.0594
    X0.411 Y1.6606 Z0.0414 R0.0594
    X0.4082 Y1.7794 Z0.0349 R0.0594
    X0.411 Y1.6606 Z0.0283 R0.0594
    X0.4082 Y1.7794 Z0.0218 R0.0594
    X0.411 Y1.6606 Z0.0153 R0.0594
    X0.4082 Y1.7794 Z0.0088 R0.0594
    X0.411 Y1.6606 Z0.0023 R0.0594
    X0.4082 Y1.7794 Z-0.0042 R0.0594
    X0.411 Y1.6606 Z-0.0107 R0.0594
    X0.4082 Y1.7794 Z-0.0172 R0.0594
    X0.411 Y1.6606 Z-0.0238 R0.0594
    X0.4082 Y1.7794 Z-0.0303 R0.0594
    X0.411 Y1.6606 Z-0.0368 R0.0594
    X0.469 Y1.72 Z-0.04 R0.0594
    X0.4037 R0.0326
    X0.47 R0.0331 F10.
    X0.285 R0.0925
    X0.47 R0.0925
    X0.4571 Y1.7217 R0.0066
    G1 X0.451 Y1.6991

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    Re: Chatter movement/Jerky movement

    Clearly there's not a G61 that I would of hoped to see. Providing you checked all settings listed in thread it's safe to assume Mach 3 motion mode/constant velocity is not your problem. I see in your first post that your Step and Dir pulse is set to 5 and your acceleration is set low so this eliminates common motor tuning settings that could cause jerky/ chatter movement.

    Below is a link to another thread similar to your problem. This will give you a few more things to check. Sorry I couldn't of been more help, I will continue to reply bumping your thread in hopes someone more experienced jump in and shed new light. Good Luck!

    http://www.cnczone.com/forums/showth...p?276288-Jerky movement running code, but jog is OK!

  12. #12
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    Re: Chatter movement/Jerky movement

    Thanks for your help ! I really appreciate it !

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    Re: Chatter movement/Jerky movement

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