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    OKUMA OSP U100M HELP FOR SMALL MEMORY

    Hello everyone and thanks to all, I have bought an OKUMA OSP U100M machine, the memory is very small and the programs realized with CAD CAM software can not be loaded because they are a size too big for the memory machine. There are present RS232C socket and floppy, how do I know if there is DNC OPTION activated? How i configure the parameters for rs232 for connect a pc? I can start program directly from the floppy without loading them into memory for example with a string similar to "SPG,DD0:SC1.ISO" that I use to read programs directly from floppy on my edm charmille?

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    Re: OKUMA OSP U100M HELP FOR SMALL MEMORY

    hi, there were similar threads lately, about file size issue ; this is all i can do :

    Quote Originally Posted by deadlykitten View Post
    on pselect is an option that allows "path" selection, only that it comes with restrictions as the path should be a "device name"
    i could acces only MD1 , AD0 , AD1, thus folders on "D drive", but nothing from outside this partition; also i tried US0, but it did not work
    also pselect comes with A ( normal file size ) , B ( big file size ) and S ( don't search soubroutines ) atributes, but i don't know if they work for you ..

    Quote Originally Posted by OkumaWiz View Post
    Depending on the control, you may be able to put in in with your system files and run from there. 7000 and u100 use MD0: before that it was BB0: on the 5000 series. They usually had much more memory available in the system files area. You can check it by doing FREE BB0: command. FREE BB0: ;C will show continuous available.
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    Re: OKUMA OSP U100M HELP FOR SMALL MEMORY

    Solve is DNC-B option. Look at the OSP SOftware Management Data Card for the DNC-B option active or pasive.
    "Imagination is more important than knowledge."

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    Re: OKUMA OSP U100M HELP FOR SMALL MEMORY

    hy what means "1020 < 16320 < 49215 < 64515" ?
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    Re: OKUMA OSP U100M HELP FOR SMALL MEMORY

    OK, but i don't know how change parameter or change mode a-b-c or view dnc setting if active, do you help me? thanks

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    Re: OKUMA OSP U100M HELP FOR SMALL MEMORY

    is there OSP Software Management Data Card in the electrical cabinet of CNC
    "Imagination is more important than knowledge."

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    Re: OKUMA OSP U100M HELP FOR SMALL MEMORY

    Quote Originally Posted by kurmay View Post
    is there OSP Software Management Data Card in the electrical cabinet of CNC
    this management data card, ain't it also on cnc's hdd ?

    Quote Originally Posted by bigodinos View Post
    OK, but i don't know how change parameter or change mode a-b-c or view dnc setting if active, do you help me? thanks
    kurmay means to check if this option ( dnc-b ) is installed on your machine, by insepcting the "OSP Software Management Data Card"

    if it is there, than perhaps kurmay may help you continue ; so, do you have the "OSP Software Management Data Card" ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by deadlykitten View Post
    hy what means "1020 < 16320 < 49215 < 64515" ?
    I like playing with numbers
    "Imagination is more important than knowledge."

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    Quote Originally Posted by kurmay View Post
    I like playing with numbers
    maybe you hit 6 / 49 .... good luck with this, and pls don't celebrate alone
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    Re: OKUMA OSP U100M HELP FOR SMALL MEMORY

    is not my issue, but can this be done without the "Management Data Card" ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by deadlykitten View Post
    is not my issue, but can this be done without the "Management Data Card" ?
    Yes....
    go to EDIT mode
    F8 (Extend), F8 (Extend).... should put you on the page with "PROTECT" as F1
    ( if you have the DNC option... it would be listed in the F3, F4 or F5 zones )


    If you don't have the option.... learn to utilise sub-routines & schedule programs

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    Re: OKUMA OSP U100M HELP FOR SMALL MEMORY

    OK, i don't have, but i can load program in machine memory one for times with a pc connect with rs232?, i think a solution: format memory and load only one program and then cancel this and load another new

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigodinos View Post
    OK, i don't have, but i can load program in machine memory one for times with a pc connect with rs232?, i think a solution: format memory and load only one program and then cancel this and load another new
    I think the term is "INITIALIZE" the memory, "Format" will do other things
    - you can load a larger file into the control, than what can be selected to run

    If your program has jumps... ie sub or program calls then it has to be loaded as A or B method
    ;A method ..... loads program & reserve bubble memory for the subs and allow to background edit of the active program eg PS A.min ;A (PS = PSELECT, A.MIN=program to load, ;A= A method [note the semicolon before the A]
    ;B method ..... loads program & reserve bubble memory for the subs and NOT allow to background edit of the active eg PS A.min ;B (permits a longer program to be active]

    ;S method .... loads a program,.... DOES NOT allow any jumps, subs, etc......eg PS A.MIN ;S ( permits the largest possible program to be loaded into bubble memory....this is also limited, the maximum file size is still smaller than what ever file that could fit into the control)

    use a schedule program, & break a very large file into smaller files
    ie
    filename = RUN.SDF
    Code:
    N1
    PSELECT MD1:A.MIN ;S 
    N2
    PSELECT MD1:B.MIN ;S
    N3
    PSELECT MD1:C.MIN ;S
    N4
    PSELECT MD1:D.MIN ;S
    END
    It may be possible to replace the MD1 with FD0 so that the search for the file is from the floppy drive instead of the machine control

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    Re: OKUMA OSP U100M HELP FOR SMALL MEMORY

    thanks very very large.

    "t may be possible to replace the MD1 with FD0 so that the search for the file is from the floppy drive instead of the machine control" why??

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    Re: OKUMA OSP U100M HELP FOR SMALL MEMORY

    Quote Originally Posted by bigodinos View Post
    thanks very very large.

    "t may be possible to replace the MD1 with FD0 so that the search for the file is from the floppy drive instead of the machine control" why??
    For example
    programs A,B,C,D are required for machining one part, but (together) they all won't fit into the machine control at the same time, but you could load them separately into the run buffer using the ";S" method

    using a schedule program automates the selecting of the next program to run, & then running it


    MD1: is the name of the drive for storing files.....like C: is to your PC
    .......... MD0: is the drive for the system files ( try typing DIR MD0: *.* <WRITE> & see what you get )....... do NOT play in this area..... you risk turning your machine into a boat anchor
    FD0: is the name of the floppy drive
    CN0: is the RS232 port
    TT: is the tape reader ( the old reel to reel punched tape reader, for those that still remember that era )

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    Re: OKUMA OSP U100M HELP FOR SMALL MEMORY

    I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHERE I WRITE MD0

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    Re: OKUMA OSP U100M HELP FOR SMALL MEMORY

    Quote Originally Posted by bigodinos View Post
    I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHERE I WRITE ...
    should be an input bar/edit/line, after which you always press WRITE button, so to send the command to the cnc

    Quote Originally Posted by bigodinos View Post
    ... MD0
    such a briliant idea ! i am ashamed that I have not thought so : loading system files into the cnc ! with all those files types, something should definetly load

    i really can not imagine what would be the result; there was hardrware > operating system > cnc; now you load the system into the cnc ; this is a complete circle !!!

    definetly result is neither digital or mechanic; also, no way organic ... maybe a black hole or some kind of quantic-space-fizical-distorsion ? depends on chuck size

    ps : Superman wants you to be safe, and avoid MD0
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    Re: OKUMA OSP U100M HELP FOR SMALL MEMORY

    You are great!!!
    I'M italian and write english is difficult for me


    [QUOTE=Superman;1941720]
    filename = RUN.SSB
    Code:
    N1
    PSELECT MD1:A.MIN ;S 
    N2
    PSELECT MD1:B.MIN ;S
    N3
    PSELECT MD1:C.MIN ;S
    N4
    PSELECT MD1:D.MIN ;S
    END
    ------------
    OK,
    what you said 'right , but I should still load the 4 programs in the machine memory that is large only 250k , so how do I do? thank you

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    Re: OKUMA OSP U100M HELP FOR SMALL MEMORY

    .
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    Re: OKUMA OSP U100M HELP FOR SMALL MEMORY

    Quote Originally Posted by Superman View Post
    programs A,B,C,D are required for machining one part, but (together) they all won't fit into the machine control at the same time, but you could load them separately into the run buffer using the ";S" method
    hello Superman, why did you said that is possible to load programs separately into the running buffer ? i don't understand this ...

    if i use :
    PSELECT a.min ; S
    PSELECT b.min ; S
    PSELECT c.min ; S > then this won't load all files ?

    and if i load them separately, as :
    PSELECT a.min ; S
    green button ( file loaded )
    PSELECT b.min ; S
    green button ( file loaded ) > at this moment, a.min gets erased ? so when programs are load one by one, actually, you load-run-load-run, not load-load-run-run ? did i get it ?
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