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  1. #1
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    Cincinnati Milacron Arrow 750 BIOS help needed!!

    My A2100 Realtime board has been dead.

    Anybody have any thoughts and advice I'll be very grateful!!

    Thanks!

  2. #2
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    Re: Cincinnati Milacron Arrow 750 BIOS help needed!!

    Did you have any joy getting hold of the flash files for your RT CPU PCB ?
    I have the same problem with 2 of my PCB's out of A500's Both G486VPC, one older with UMC I/O chipset and one newer with SMC I/O

    Any help much apreciated !

  3. #3
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    Re: Cincinnati Milacron Arrow 750 BIOS help needed!!

    Hello,

    I have many workstations and real time card bios settings. Just put the part number and I will sent to you. I have also some flash files.

  4. #4
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    Hay, Seraum

    My realtime board part number is 3-424-2168A02.
    Do you have the flash file of this board ?

    Thanks. Hayasi

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    Re: Cincinnati Milacron Arrow 750 BIOS help needed!!

    Quote Originally Posted by hayasi View Post
    Seraum

    My realtime board part number is 3-424-2168A02.
    And my email address is [email protected]

    Thanks very much.
    Hello,

    There is 3 methods (From easy to hard way ):

    A) Connect an old keyboard to the realtime card and boot the Acramatic. Normaly at boot (after 5 seconds) you must push the ESC or F1 key (This is for ignoring some missed bios parameters). If the Acramatic boot without alarm and you can use the machine then the bios parameters must be changed.

    Note 1: For all the next ways, you must remove the Realtime card from the Acramatic box.
    Note 2:For the next way, you must know what you do, put an electrostatic ring

    B) Enter to the bios of the real time and change the values of bios parameters to the good one:
    1- You must have an ISA VGA card and an old keyboard, also a AT power supply
    2- At boot just press the good key to enter to the bios (DEL i think, )
    3- Change the parameters of each page to the good one - Just reload the default parameters from bios page, and change the parameter: "HALT ON : No ERROR" - Normally it will work, if not i will send you pictures from a good BIOS.
    4- Save and exit

    Note 3: For expert- This method is the last that you can do, and normally you must know what you do!! put an electrostatic ring.
    C) If you want to reflash the Real time card:
    1- You must prepare a DOS boot floppy disk
    2- you must have an ISA VGA card and an old keyboard, also an AT power supply,
    3- you must also have a floppy drive connected to the real time card.
    4-The files is attached, you must put the extracted files on the floppy and run the *.BAT file from dos.

    After that you switch off the power from real time and you're ok.

  6. #6
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    Re: Cincinnati Milacron Arrow 750 BIOS help needed!!

    We have problem with rt motherboard pn: 3-424-2379A02 rev +. We have changed battery and lost cmos setings. Could you send us the cmos or settings to this motherboard. We would appreciate for help. My email addres : [email protected]

    Thanks

    Tomasz

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    Re: Cincinnati Milacron Arrow 750 BIOS help needed!!

    You can send the board to SIEMENS to get it re-flashed and a new battery.

    MIKE CNC Machine Services INC | Cincinnati Milacron MachinesCNC Machine Services

  8. #8
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    Hi,Seraum

    Thank you very much for your clear and straight procedure.

    I bought an old keyboard(5 pins) from internet, tried the methods A.
    OK, the Acramatic boot without alarm.

    Then I bought an ISA VGA card and a AT power supply, tried the methods B.
    OK, the Acramatic work now.

    Thank you very much. though the Acramatic occasionally maybe 1 or 2 hours will poweroff, I need to touch poweron again , I think I will fix it.

    Say again, Thank you very much.

    Hayasi

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    Smile

    double post
    Last edited by hayasi; 07-01-2017 at 09:33 AM. Reason: double post

  10. #10
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    Re: Cincinnati Milacron Arrow 750 BIOS help needed!!

    Ok good to hear that it works!!

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    Re: Cincinnati Milacron Arrow 750 BIOS help needed!!

    Quote Originally Posted by WiacekM View Post
    We have problem with rt motherboard pn: 3-424-2379A02 rev +. We have changed battery and lost cmos setings. Could you send us the cmos or settings to this motherboard. We would appreciate for help. My email addres : [email protected]

    Thanks

    Tomasz
    Hello,

    ONLY FOR 2379A02

    BE AWARE (SPECIAL CARD): Before you put an AT powersupply to THIS RT Card you must change some Pin options on the card.
    Not respecting this procedure will probably destroy the card.

    This is the procedure:
    - Take a picture of the RT card before doing anything on it, to have a backup PIN configuration.
    - Remove the JPP pin
    - Put a PIN between 2 and 3 on JP2
    - put the P8 and P9 powersupply cord on the RT CARD, the black cables must be in the middle
    - Put the VGA Card
    - Power on the power supply
    At this stage you must see the starting boot, just press the correct button to access to the bios settings.

    - Standard CMOS setup:
    * the primary master/slave and secondary master/slave must be = NONE
    * The drive A and B must be NONE
    * Hald on= All but Keyboard

    - Bios features setup:
    * virus warning disabled
    * cpu internal cache enabled
    * external cahe enabled
    * quick power on self test! enabled
    * boot sequence A C SCSI
    * swap floppy drive disabled
    * boot up floppy seek disabled
    * boot up numlock status on
    * memory ecc function disabled
    * type matic rate settings disabled
    * typematic rate chars sec 6
    * type matic delay 250
    * security option setup
    * pci/vga palette snoop disabled
    * os select for dram non OS2
    * hdd smart capability disabled
    * video bios shadow disabled
    * C***** disabled (2 lines)
    * D***** disabled (4lines)


    - Chipset features setup
    * dimm 1... Normal
    * dimm 2... normal
    * sdram ... 3
    * video bios cacheable enabled
    * system bios cacheable disabled
    * memory hole... disabled
    * cpu to pci... enabled
    * pci dynamic... enabled
    * pci master.... enabled
    * pci delay... enabled
    * pci master .... enabled

    - Power management setup
    * power management disabled
    * pm control.... yes
    * video off methos DPMS
    * video off... suspend
    * stand by mode disabled
    * suspend mode disabled
    * hdd power on disabled
    * resume ... disabled
    * from IRQ3 to IRQ7 = Primary
    * IRQ8 disabled
    * from IRQ9 to IRQ 12 secondary
    * IRQ13 primary
    * IRQ14 primary
    * IRQ15 disabled

    - PNP/PCI configuration
    * Resources control... Manual
    * Reset ... diabled
    * IRQ3 and IRQ4 = PCI/ISA PNP
    * From IRQ5 to 10= Legacy ISA
    * IRQ11 PCI/ISA PNP
    * From IRQ12 to IRQ15 LEGACY ISA
    * DMA0,1 and 3= PCI/ISA PNP
    * DMA5 and DMA6 Legacy...
    * DMA7 PCI/ISA PNP
    * Pci Irq... Level
    * assisgn... disabled
    * PCI SLOT1 and 2 = Auto

    Integrated Peripherals
    * Onboard primary... disabled
    * Onboard Secondary diabled
    * IDE pref... enabled
    * IDE HDD... enabled
    * Onboard FCC.. disabled
    * Onboard UART 1 = 3E8/IRQ4
    * Onboard UART 2 = 2E8/IRQ3
    * Onboard Uart2 mode: standard
    * onboard parall... disabled

    Save and exit, wait the bios to start with giving no error at boot. Now just poweroff the power supply. YOU MUST PUT THE PIN CONFIGURATION IN THE ORIGINAL STATE BEFORE CONNECTING THE RT BOARD TO ACRAMATIC. Not respecting this procedure will probably destroy the card.

  12. #12
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    Hi será un

    Friend I need help me Realtime card is the 3-424-2400A02 you could send me the flash files email:
    [email protected]

  13. #13

    Re: Cincinnati Milacron Arrow 750 BIOS help needed!!

    I'm getting the same problem on my Arrow 1000. How much is this going to run to get it re-flashed/battery? I'm going to call customer service tomorrow. Thanks.

  14. #14
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    Re: Cincinnati Milacron Arrow 750 BIOS help needed!!

    Hi dear.
    I have a Cincinnati Milling Machine. With Acramatic 2100 control. I had a bios battery message. And the clock was constantly erased. I changed the battery on the ws board. Unfortunately, I have ws fail alarms. And does not work.
    This ws board model is: aa 670917-310
    Do you have bios settings?
    please guide me .
    my email : [email protected]
    Thanks

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