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  1. #1
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    Need Help with 5 Axis Bob / Mach3 / Huanyang Spindle Setup

    Hi All,

    I have a Smartsain 5 axis BOB and Mach3 and a Huanyang Spindle.

    I would like to wire my BOB so it can do the following functions

    1) turn spindle on / off
    2) revers / forward spindle
    3) control spindle speed.

    Supposedly with the correct wiring this can all work thru Mach3 and my Break out Board.

    Can someone please help me out with a wiring diagram.

    Thanks Steven

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    Re: Need Help with 5 Axis Bob / Mach3 / Huanyang Spindle Setup

    1 & 2 are the same. The forward or reverse commands start the spindle.
    Unfortunately, you can't do both with this board, as there's only one relay. See this image.
    http://www.omc-stepperonline.com/ima...d-st-v2_01.jpg

    The terminals marked "Spindle On/Off Control Interface" are controlled by the relay, and go to the FWD terminal on the VFD.
    The terminals marked 0-10V spindle speed go to the VI and DCM terminals. Look at the bottom of the board, for terminal information.

    Assign Pin #1 in Mach3 to the PWM signal.
    Gerry

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    Re: Need Help with 5 Axis Bob / Mach3 / Huanyang Spindle Setup

    I have the same set up and can only use it to go one way. My output was only 5 volts so I bought a pwm board to use the 10 volt from the vfd and got it to work that way but if you read the book that comes with the vfd you can set it for 0-5 I did post a short youtube video It may not be the way the pros would have wired it but it has worked for me

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    Re: Need Help with 5 Axis Bob / Mach3 / Huanyang Spindle Setup

    Quote Originally Posted by ger21 View Post
    1 & 2 are the same. The forward or reverse commands start the spindle.
    Unfortunately, you can't do both with this board, as there's only one relay. See this image.
    http://www.omc-stepperonline.com/ima...d-st-v2_01.jpg

    The terminals marked "Spindle On/Off Control Interface" are controlled by the relay, and go to the FWD terminal on the VFD.
    The terminals marked 0-10V spindle speed go to the VI and DCM terminals. Look at the bottom of the board, for terminal information.

    Assign Pin #1 in Mach3 to the PWM signal.
    Ok, maybe I am a little dense. I get that the 0 - 10V go to VI and DCM, does it matter which one goes to which ??

    and

    there are two place to wire to the spindle on/off. Do I just wire one to the FWD ??

    Thanks Steven

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    Re: Need Help with 5 Axis Bob / Mach3 / Huanyang Spindle Setup

    Ok, maybe I am a little dense. I get that the 0 - 10V go to VI and DCM, does it matter which one goes to which ??
    I made a mistake. Look at the back of your board. The one labeled ground goes to ACM, the one that says 0-10V PWM goes to VI.

    there are two place to wire to the spindle on/off. Do I just wire one to the FWD ??
    One to FWD, and the other to DCM
    Gerry

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    http://www.thecncwoodworker.com/2017.html

    Mach3 2010 Screenset
    http://www.thecncwoodworker.com/2010.html

    JointCAM - CNC Dovetails & Box Joints
    http://www.g-forcecnc.com/jointcam.html

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    Re: Need Help with 5 Axis Bob / Mach3 / Huanyang Spindle Setup

    Quote Originally Posted by ger21 View Post
    I made a mistake. Look at the back of your board. The one labeled ground goes to ACM, the one that says 0-10V PWM goes to VI.



    One to FWD, and the other to DCM

    Ok, All wired up. BUTTTT it does not work right. I hear a click when I push the spindle toggle in Mach3 but I still have to hit the "run" button on the VFC. Then it only goes to a freqency of 100. 400 is the highest.

    I did set up what I thought was correct in Mach3. I set up the Pully . I set up the output to #1.

    I even checked the VFC and the pin connector is on "VI"

    any ideas ????

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    Re: Need Help with 5 Axis Bob / Mach3 / Huanyang Spindle Setup

    What do you have PD001 and PD002 set to?
    And where is the jumper (J1) next to the screw terminals?

    You probably need to go through all of the VFD parameters and set them up correctly.
    Gerry

    UCCNC 2017 Screenset
    http://www.thecncwoodworker.com/2017.html

    Mach3 2010 Screenset
    http://www.thecncwoodworker.com/2010.html

    JointCAM - CNC Dovetails & Box Joints
    http://www.g-forcecnc.com/jointcam.html

    (Note: The opinions expressed in this post are my own and are not necessarily those of CNCzone and its management)

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    Re: Need Help with 5 Axis Bob / Mach3 / Huanyang Spindle Setup

    Quote Originally Posted by ger21 View Post
    What do you have PD001 and PD002 set to?
    And where is the jumper (J1) next to the screw terminals?

    You probably need to go through all of the VFD parameters and set them up correctly.
    PD001 and PD002 are set to "0"

    PD003 = 100

    Yes the J1 is set next to the terminal.

    Thanks Steven

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    Re: Need Help with 5 Axis Bob / Mach3 / Huanyang Spindle Setup

    pd 1 and pd2 need to be set to 1

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    Re: Need Help with 5 Axis Bob / Mach3 / Huanyang Spindle Setup

    Quote Originally Posted by minicncuser View Post
    pd 1 and pd2 need to be set to 1
    You are the man !!!

    Works great.

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    Re: Need Help with 5 Axis Bob / Mach3 / Huanyang Spindle Setup

    Hello, I use the same board with LinuxCNC and my problem is that at the speed 0 the output is 10V and at full speed the output is 0V. It is supposed to be opposite...
    How is it in Mach3 ? Thank you

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