So. If someone were to hypothetically be replacing their nema 34 960oz in steppers from cncrp with servos, what should the kw rating be?
So. If someone were to hypothetically be replacing their nema 34 960oz in steppers from cncrp with servos, what should the kw rating be?
Do you have the 2:1, or 3:1 reduction? And what speed are your rapids set to.
And what kind of servos?
At 1000 rpm, you're 960oz steppers have about 200oz of torque.
A 200w AC servo has about 250oz of peak torque, all the way to 3000rpm. If you went with a 10:1 gearbox, you'd have much more power with the 200w servo. If you want to keep the existing belt drive, then you'd probably want a bigger servo.
Gerry
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Newbie here with a CNCRP machine on order - can you explain why you would do this (steppers -> servos)?
Not if the machine is setup properly, or you don't try to go faster than the steppers are capable of.Steppers will eventually burn you. They loose steps.
With 3:1, I'd probably go with the 750 watt. If you could go 6:1 or higher, you'd get the same or better performance from 400 watt..
750w have ~980oz-in peak torque, which would give you about 5x the power at higher rpm.
400w would probably give similar performance to what you have now.
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I use servo's exclusively, the plus for me is the closed loop aspect, as well as current only when demanded.
Al.
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That 960in-oz stepper at 1000rpm and 200oz-in of torque is producing around 150W of power. The 400W servo will produce 150W of power continuous and about 450W peak at 1126rpm (1768ipm) (and 1.2kW peak at 3000rpm). I have my doubts as to whether the mechanicals can handle the power. Or, you're limiting the speed at which you run the servo, which would probably be a waste of the servo's capability (meaning money.) In other words, the drive ratio as set up (2:1) does not lend itself well for servos. I think an easy-servo or step-servo system would work better (or an expensive direct-drive servo).At 1000 rpm, you're 960oz steppers have about 200oz of torque.
A 200w AC servo has about 250oz of peak torque, all the way to 3000rpm. If you went with a 10:1 gearbox, you'd have much more power with the 200w servo. If you want to keep the existing belt drive, then you'd probably want a bigger servo.
I think a better approach would be to simply change the drive ratio to 3:1 or 4:1 first, and see if the problem persists. Remember the pinion acts as a gear increaser or multiplier, so your 2:1 ratio is negated by the 3.1416 pitch circumference, giving you an effective gear ratio of 2/pi or .6366 motor turn per 1". Or in other words, you're getting 2/3 motor torque at the load.
@ericclinedinst:
Did you replace the steppers with servos?If yes what is your experience?
Br,
David