[steelcogs]

Alright so I recently had another VFD/2.2kw spindle setup that I was having trouble with so I returned it to get essentially the same thing. The issues I had were basically that a different VFD came with it than the Huanyang one that was pictured and has all the internet backing. This VFD was a royal PITA to get going and it eventually just wasn't worth it and stopped working so here I am with this new spindle and VFD. The new one is a 2.2kw water cooled spindle and Huanyang 2.2kw VFD for 110v.

I have the VFD seemingly working, if I don't have it plugged into the spindle it works as intended. e.g. I turn pot and it goes to the desired frequency between 0 and 400 at whatever ramp up speed I set. However, when I plug in the spindle and try to do the same thing, once it gets to about 8hz the sound slightly changes in the spindle (not necessarily a bad sound, just different) and I start to get either an A.oA or an A.oL error. I've had both of them pop up but can't seem to find them in the documentation. Then at ~10hz it shuts off with the error E.oAA. Again, can't seem to specifically find this in the documentation. It also ramps up the frequency EXTREMELY slow. The default ramp time is 10 seconds. With the spindle plugged in it moves at less than 1hz per second, somewhere in the decimals.

From what I gather it seems as if this could likely be a shorting issue within the spindle windings. I'd like to check this (by checking resistance of each winding to the spindle ground IIRC?) but I'm hesitant to take apart the spindle since I don't really know what I'm getting into. I know I have no shorts in my wiring from the spindle to the VFD, I continuity checked that just in case. I'm also confident that my parameters are correct also. I used the ones I saw posted repeatedly countless times on CNCzone apart from changing preferential ones and making sure anything 220 related was set to 110 since I'm using 110. Again the ramp up time and everything works just fine with the spindle is unplugged, so I don't think it's settings affecting it.

Hopefully it's just something stupid, would be pretty lame to have to send back a second set.

[Al_The_Man]

Is this a H.S. spindle 24k rpm?
If so there is a minimum frequency to run it at otherwise burn out can occur.
If a standard 3ph motor, it will not run at 400hz.
Al.

[mactec54]

Alright so I recently had another VFD/2.2kw spindle setup that I was having trouble with so I returned it to get essentially the same thing. The issues I had were basically that a different VFD came with it than the Huanyang one that was pictured and has all the internet backing. This VFD was a royal PITA to get going and it eventually just wasn't worth it and stopped working so here I am with this new spindle and VFD. The new one is a 2.2kw water cooled spindle and Huanyang 2.2kw VFD for 110v.

I have the VFD seemingly working, if I don't have it plugged into the spindle it works as intended. e.g. I turn pot and it goes to the desired frequency between 0 and 400 at whatever ramp up speed I set. However, when I plug in the spindle and try to do the same thing, once it gets to about 8hz the sound slightly changes in the spindle (not necessarily a bad sound, just different) and I start to get either an A.oA or an A.oL error. I've had both of them pop up but can't seem to find them in the documentation. Then at ~10hz it shuts off with the error E.oAA. Again, can't seem to specifically find this in the documentation. It also ramps up the frequency EXTREMELY slow. The default ramp time is 10 seconds. With the spindle plugged in it moves at less than 1hz per second, somewhere in the decimals.

From what I gather it seems as if this could likely be a shorting issue within the spindle windings. I'd like to check this (by checking resistance of each winding to the spindle ground IIRC?) but I'm hesitant to take apart the spindle since I don't really know what I'm getting into. I know I have no shorts in my wiring from the spindle to the VFD, I continuity checked that just in case. I'm also confident that my parameters are correct also. I used the ones I saw posted repeatedly countless times on CNCzone apart from changing preferential ones and making sure anything 220 related was set to 110 since I'm using 110. Again the ramp up time and everything works just fine with the spindle is unplugged, so I don't think it's settings affecting it.

Hopefully it's just something stupid, would be pretty lame to have to send back a second set.

Don't try it anymore as you will damage it you have the Parameters not set correct, here is what you need to set, or you will smoke something, 120v supply is not a good choice for a 2.2Kw spindle

It the spindle 220v or 110v Rated ??

I will post the Parameters that you can use for your spindle, do the Parameters start with PD ??

[steelcogs]

Don't try it anymore as you will damage it you have the Parameters not set correct, here is what you need to set, or you will smoke something, 120v supply is not a good choice for a 2.2Kw spindle

It the spindle 220v or 110v Rated ??

I will post the Parameters that you can use for your spindle, do the Parameters start with PD ??

The spindle is definitely rated for 110v as is the VFD. I’m not sure how easy running a 220 line into my garage would be but I may just have to downgrade to a 1.5kw spindle worst case scenario.

And yes my parameters start with PD. It’s the relatively standard Huanyang VFD, just for 110v rather than 220.

[Al_The_Man]

I’m not sure how easy running a 220 line into my garage would be.

If the Garage is attached to your house it is usually as easy as running a 2 wire and GND from the panel to a 240v outlet..
Al.

[mactec54]

The spindle is definitely rated for 110v as is the VFD. I’m not sure how easy running a 220 line into my garage would be but I may just have to downgrade to a 1.5kw spindle worst case scenario.

And yes my parameters start with PD. It’s the relatively standard Huanyang VFD, just for 110v rather than 220.

That was not a good choice, only the Chinese would make such a spindle 110v 3 Phase, most who need 120v supply get the 110/120v VFD that has 220v output your spindle then would be a 220v 3 Ph, this is the norm for something like this

Here are some Parameters for you to try I don't like what you are doing though, as your supply would be to light to run this 2.2Kw spindle on 120v supply you need over 30A supply

There may need to be some adjustments to get this running,

Huanyang Mactec54
2.2Kw 110/120v

PD000=0 for Parameter unlock ( 1 ) for Parameter Lock

PD001=0 (1 For Remote Control)

PD002=0 ( 1 For 0-10v Terminal Control or Remote Trim Pot Control ) ( J1 Also Needs to be set for Terminal Control )

PD003=400

PD004=400

PD005=400

PD006=15

PD007=20

PD008=120 (Motor Rated Voltage )

PD009=15

PD010=8

PD011=100 ( 100 Minimum Setting with Quality VFD, 120 is Safe)

PD13= 08 is for Factory reset, Only use this to set VFD to Factory Default Settings

PD014 Acceleration=10 ( Adjust to suit)

PD015 Deceleration=10 (Adjust to suit)

( PD15 is ignored IF PD26=1 Then the Spindle will Coast to a Stop)

PD041=8 ( Carrier Frequency )

PD141=120 ( Motor Rated Voltage )

PD142= 9 ( Motor Amp Rating 2.2Kw Spindle 9 amp )

PD143=2 ( Motor Number of Poles)

PD144=3000 (Max Motor RPM) =3,000= (24,000)

PD70=0 ( This may need to be set to 1 if Control Voltage is 0-5v )

PD72=400

PD73=100 ( 100 Minimum Setting 120 safe )

[steelcogs]

I'll be damned! Copying those settings worked. The only ones I changed were the ones that say 120 for voltage (I had mine set at 110) and the minimum frequency. It must have been the frequency being too low that was overloading the bottom end or something. What was weird was that I wasn't intentionally trying to run it at a low frequency, I just physically couldn't turn the frequency up far enough for it to not error out I guess. Instead it ramped up at snail speed and presumably shut itself off before it could get to a safe frequency. Well this is awesome. Next I need to get it hooked up with my GRBL board but that shouldn't be too difficult, just either a 0-5v or 0-24mA input.

I'm thinking I should be ok as far as having ample power. The spindle and VFD I'm sending back worked until it didn't, but when it did I had it running at 15k rpm with my cnc running, shop vac on periodically, water pump, and laptop plugged in. Didn't trip any breaker then. Also had a scenario with all that plus a DeWalt router (that draws something like 5 amps) running too with no issues. If I run into any more issues (god knows I need more) and I end up having to send this back for whatever reason I'll look into running a 220 line. Hell I may even have an extra outlet with our hot water heater that's nearby now that I think about it. Provided the breaker is ample...

[mactec54]

I'll be damned! Copying those settings worked. The only ones I changed were the ones that say 120 for voltage (I had mine set at 110) and the minimum frequency. It must have been the frequency being too low that was overloading the bottom end or something. What was weird was that I wasn't intentionally trying to run it at a low frequency, I just physically couldn't turn the frequency up far enough for it to not error out I guess. Instead it ramped up at snail speed and presumably shut itself off before it could get to a safe frequency. Well this is awesome. Next I need to get it hooked up with my GRBL board but that shouldn't be too difficult, just either a 0-5v or 0-24mA input.

I'm thinking I should be ok as far as having ample power. The spindle and VFD I'm sending back worked until it didn't, but when it did I had it running at 15k rpm with my cnc running, shop vac on periodically, water pump, and laptop plugged in. Didn't trip any breaker then. Also had a scenario with all that plus a DeWalt router (that draws something like 5 amps) running too with no issues. If I run into any more issues (god knows I need more) and I end up having to send this back for whatever reason I'll look into running a 220 line. Hell I may even have an extra outlet with our hot water heater that's nearby now that I think about it. Provided the breaker is ample...

Yes the low Frequency Parameter's are very important, they are easy to smoke or damage a spindle or drive when set incorrect

[evilusions]

That was not a good choice, only the Chinese would make such a spindle 110v 3 Phase, most who need 120v supply get the 110/120v VFD that has 220v output your spindle then would be a 220v 3 Ph, this is the norm for something like this

Here are some Parameters for you to try I don't like what you are doing though, as your supply would be to light to run this 2.2Kw spindle on 120v supply you need over 30A supply

There may need to be some adjustments to get this running,

Huanyang Mactec54
2.2Kw 110/120v

PD000=0 for Parameter unlock ( 1 ) for Parameter Lock

PD001=0 (1 For Remote Control)

PD002=0 ( 1 For 0-10v Terminal Control or Remote Trim Pot Control ) ( J1 Also Needs to be set for Terminal Control )

PD003=400

PD004=400

PD005=400

PD006=15

PD007=20

PD008=120 (Motor Rated Voltage )

PD009=15

PD010=8

PD011=100 ( 100 Minimum Setting with Quality VFD, 120 is Safe)

PD13= 08 is for Factory reset, Only use this to set VFD to Factory Default Settings

PD014 Acceleration=10 ( Adjust to suit)

PD015 Deceleration=10 (Adjust to suit)

( PD15 is ignored IF PD26=1 Then the Spindle will Coast to a Stop)

PD041=8 ( Carrier Frequency )

PD141=120 ( Motor Rated Voltage )

PD142= 9 ( Motor Amp Rating 2.2Kw Spindle 9 amp )

PD143=2 ( Motor Number of Poles)

PD144=3000 (Max Motor RPM) =3,000= (24,000)

PD70=0 ( This may need to be set to 1 if Control Voltage is 0-5v )

PD72=400

PD73=100 ( 100 Minimum Setting 120 safe )

I just put this settings into my Huanyang VFD hooked up to a 2.2kw spindle, and I am still having some troubles. I get an EOCA alarm anytime it tries to ramp up past 80hz. I have a good supply of power, properly sized wires, but not sure what I am doing wrong.

[mactec54]

I just put this settings into my Huanyang VFD hooked up to a 2.2kw spindle, and I am still having some troubles. I get an EOCA alarm anytime it tries to ramp up past 80hz. I have a good supply of power, properly sized wires, but not sure what I am doing wrong.

These settings may not work for you, these where custom for a 120V spindle so won't work correct if you have a 220v spindle

So is your spindle 220v as most are, if so you will need to change some of these parameters

[Hammerstone]

Hi mactec,

sorry for the late reply, uni's been busy. I've set PD025 back to 0 and used these settings (actually, I only had to change PD006, PD009 and PD120) and now it works as well! I do actually have an air-cooled spindle, but the spindle is cool and only draws 2 amps (which is exactly the amount it drew before), so I don't think it will overheat.
The body of the spindle is grounded, so no worries there. Thank you for your time and the detailled help!

Niklas