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  1. #41

    Re: Blender, Rhino, Aspire or Fusion 360 for guitar design and milling?

    https://youtu.be/fSVgXcwMZwU

    The milling of this neck went a bit better than the last post . . . the transition on the heel needs to be more gradual and using arcs instead of circles for the neck loft made it a bit flat: Still using Estlcam - because am still trying to figure out CamBam . .lol. The owner wrote a really nice e-mail before buying and offered to give a hand with milling guitars - told him that I'd reciprocate by making some videos - but he wont respond to any e-mails - such is life. Tried posting in the CamBam page here without any replies. Have had some success connecting with a few people on the CamBam forum and think that will be a big help in the long run - but need to learn the basics first - which is proving a tad laborious. Regardless, making some progress - there are many parameters that seem unfamiliar as they are either not part of or named differently from other CAM programs like Fusion or Estlcam. Will stay with it - don't want to have spent that money for nothing. Truth be told can't recommend it. Deskproto is what I want now - but will have to wait until I can afford it.
    Vegas Guitars Custom Shop
    http://vegasguitars.com

  2. #42

    Re: Blender, Rhino, Aspire or Fusion 360 for guitar design and milling?

    Kosh - how's it going? What are you up to with aluminum these days?
    Vegas Guitars Custom Shop
    http://vegasguitars.com

  3. #43

    Re: Blender, Rhino, Aspire or Fusion 360 for guitar design and milling?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kosh View Post
    Don't know how I missed this thread for nearly 3 months.... oh yeah, was too busy building guitars!

    VG - do you still want to do it it in F360? Looks like you got it handled. I can make a demo video of how I ended up doing it if you want. It's just not fully parametric, and I'm not sure if it can be.
    Please make the video - would like to see how you do it. Thanks, N
    Vegas Guitars Custom Shop
    http://vegasguitars.com

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    Re: Blender, Rhino, Aspire or Fusion 360 for guitar design and milling?

    Nice work; it looks like you're getting the hang of it. Is that maple? Did you find MOI easier to use than the other CAD programs you've tried? I just started selling MOI, because people were looking for a powerful program that was easy to learn and not too expensive. (It's not up on my website yet). If you want DeskProto, I offer a discount that would make it more affordable. It's always been my go-to choice for complex artistic parts, but they just added some vector-machining functions (profiling, pocketing and drilling) for Version 7 that make it more generally useful than before.

    Andrew Werby
    computersculpture.com
    Andrew Werby
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  5. #45

    Re: Blender, Rhino, Aspire or Fusion 360 for guitar design and milling?

    Hello Mr. Werby,

    Yes - used Fusion 360 for a year and was frustrated in some respects - purchased MoI and after a few months of learning find it more intuitive with a faster and more productive work flow. NURBS modeling using Boolean commands is very different from the parametric alternative - and in some ways better for guitar design. Additionally, the owner is hands on and the forum is full of experts that are not stingy with their knowledge. Couldn't have purchased a better program - almost purchased Rhino - but it has many bells and whistles not needed when modeling only for production or CNC. The wood in the videos is maple and cherry. The owner of DeskProto offered me the hobby version - but this was after he told me I could only buy the full version - which was out of my price range. So I bought two other programs of which one is pretty good. I will purchase DeskProto when I can afford it - it looks like a terrific CAM program - however I need the version that allows putting necks on the work space diagonally as my machine is only 25X25 and necks will only mill diagonally as in the video. The entry edition of DeskProto does not allow for diagonal milling.
    Vegas Guitars Custom Shop
    http://vegasguitars.com

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    Re: Blender, Rhino, Aspire or Fusion 360 for guitar design and milling?

    Quote Originally Posted by VGcustomshop View Post
    Kosh - how's it going? What are you up to with aluminum these days?
    Haven't done any aluminum since that first bulkhead... it made such a mess of my spoil board! Need to look into installing an airblast so I can cut without lubrication?

    I AM trying to redesign my articulated neck to move the heel inside the body and make it an aluminum bracket. and then I'll need to decide if I can 3D print it, or just CNC cut it.

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    Re: Blender, Rhino, Aspire or Fusion 360 for guitar design and milling?

    Quote Originally Posted by VGcustomshop View Post
    Please make the video - would like to see how you do it. Thanks, N

    ok, will see what I can do. Unfortunately when I check my file, I made it a "base feature", and F360 won't let me see it with a timeline. Big mistake! But I'll try and re-create it. Will be in Raleigh on a biz trip this week, maybe I'll do it while bored in the hotel!

  8. #48

    Re: Blender, Rhino, Aspire or Fusion 360 for guitar design and milling?

    Here's the finished guitar
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails CustomRiv.jpg   CustomRiv2.jpg  
    Vegas Guitars Custom Shop
    http://vegasguitars.com

  9. #49

    Re: Blender, Rhino, Aspire or Fusion 360 for guitar design and milling?

    Here's a double cut t-style done in MoI3D - the renderings were done in Fusion 360. Some models made with MoI over the last few months. . . The Blue rendering is a customer order - the red rendering is a modification with a traditional bridge route - just to have on hand. Both the red and blue guitars are semi-hollow so the model is made in three parts, chambered body, routed top and pickguard. The chambered body has a bridge pickup route modeled to suit either top. The other guitars are playing around with shields as we are building a stadium for the Raiders football team and our hockey team is the Golden Knights - both of which have shields in their logos. Thanks for taking a look. Should be milling these in next month.
    Vegas Guitars Custom Shop
    http://vegasguitars.com

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    Re: Blender, Rhino, Aspire or Fusion 360 for guitar design and milling?

    Gorgeous work, VG Custom ! You mentioned aluminum?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-ZH_yn1TMI
    Been doing this too long

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    Re: Blender, Rhino, Aspire or Fusion 360 for guitar design and milling?

    We had a local Guitar show and these guys were there hmmm Interesting I did not have a good look bussy day .https://www.dkalloyguitars.com

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    Re: Blender, Rhino, Aspire or Fusion 360 for guitar design and milling?

    Been doing this too long

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    Re: Blender, Rhino, Aspire or Fusion 360 for guitar design and milling?

    Was Interesting I think the OZ market is a bit thin they have put some work in for sure.

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    Re: Blender, Rhino, Aspire or Fusion 360 for guitar design and milling?

    I saw this in Nashville, most impressive carving, structural design. and finish.
    Honey Tea & Maplewood

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    Re: Blender, Rhino, Aspire or Fusion 360 for guitar design and milling?

    Quote Originally Posted by bostosh View Post
    I saw this in Nashville, most impressive carving, structural design. and finish.
    Honey Tea & Maplewood
    That Waterfall guitar is awesome!!
    Gerry

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    http://www.thecncwoodworker.com/2017.html

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    (Note: The opinions expressed in this post are my own and are not necessarily those of CNCzone and its management)

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    Re: Blender, Rhino, Aspire or Fusion 360 for guitar design and milling?

    Wow thank's for that ,the work that has gone into them is amazing .

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