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    Re: Networking Windows 10 to DOS 6.22 on the Milltronics Centurion 6 SBC

    Quote Originally Posted by ab.machineshop View Post
    I am setting this up right now. It worked for 12 years on Netbeui and another 3 or so years with TCP/IP connected to a win 10 system, then one day in April it quit.
    let us know how it goes

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    Re: Networking Windows 10 to DOS 6.22 on the Milltronics Centurion 6 SBC

    All is working again, in Win 7 Ultimate using TCP/IP.

    The mill saw my Win 7 machine when I ran the net.exe program, it didn't see the Win 10 system.
    I have a drive mapped to the Win 7 system that the mill can read from and my CAM system writes to the same.

    Simply, follow the guide from Milltronics and relax the network group policies on the Win 7 system

    On the Win 7 system I ended up deleting the login for the mill and recreating it which got rid of the error 86 I was getting.
    I also deleted the .pwl files in the \NET directory on the mill
    Be sure to add your Win 7 system to the LMHOSTS and HOSTS files on the machine.

    I was trying off and on between jobs so that's why the long delay between posts.

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    Re: Networking Windows 10 to DOS 6.22 on the Milltronics Centurion 6 SBC

    Quote Originally Posted by yugami View Post
    I had a similar thing about using a Pi. Hardwire Ethernet to the milltronics and use wifi to talk to the Windows machine.

    Small script monitors a directory for changes and pushes updates to the control.
    This I’m interested in. I just started getting into 3d printing and looking into Raspberry Pi and Octoprint to send files and control the printer. Then I thought hey, I wonder if Pi could hook up to my mill and let me pull programs off my computer through WiFi?
    Running inside, connecting the usb floppy drive to the laptop, copying the file to floppy, then running outside to copy the floppy to the control is getting kinda old.

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    Re: Networking Windows 10 to DOS 6.22 on the Milltronics Centurion 6 SBC

    Yugami- Could you give some more info on how you set it up on the pi? I'd love to be able to get that running, but I'm not great when it comes to command line stuff in DOS and Linux. I have Pis running my 3d printers and a kiosk at each of my machines already though, so if they can do double duty to network the milltronics it would be amazing.

    Thanks!
    Nick

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    Quote Originally Posted by npolanosky View Post
    Yugami- Could you give some more info on how you set it up on the pi? I'd love to be able to get that running, but I'm not great when it comes to command line stuff in DOS and Linux. I have Pis running my 3d printers and a kiosk at each of my machines already though, so if they can do double duty to network the milltronics it would be amazing.

    Thanks!
    Nick
    i stopped using it more problem than not

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    Re: Networking Windows 10 to DOS 6.22 on the Milltronics Centurion 6 SBC

    Fair enough. I'm working on getting it either running over serial or networked to a win10 pc per this post, also picked up a USB to floppy adapter. Gotta get files to this thing somehow. So far no luck with any of them. It looks like the RS232 cable inside the machine was modified so I have no idea what pinout to actually use (Tried the one published somewhere on this site, as well as the one that works for my HAAS and Fanuc machines), and the machine is looking for an E:/ drive when I tell it to read from disk- I thought floppies were pretty much always A:/ or B:/ ? It doesn't see any of the files I have on my flash drive. Going to dive in further, but need to get a real keyboard so I can actually navigate properly in DOS.

    To be continued when I don't have ridiculous deadlines. Gotta keep the other machines running. I might just hand-code some stuff at this rate so the milltronics can bore locating pin holes for my carvesmart jaws or do something useful.

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    Re: Networking Windows 10 to DOS 6.22 on the Milltronics Centurion 6 SBC

    I just push over RS232 currently -- I bought these two things from amazon and use my laptop and the program EdytorNC (free software)

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    The 15 foot and 3 foot respectively. Run under the machine I can hook up about 6 feet away from the door away from the coolant spray.

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    Re: Networking Windows 10 to DOS 6.22 on the Milltronics Centurion 6 SBC

    I just wanted to update everybody on my ethernet connection to my mill using a Windows 10 laptop with a built in ethernet NIC and WiFi.

    It still works most of the time. I have stopped using the USB NIC. I now plug the crossover ethernet cable from the mill directly into the NIC that is built into my laptop. It works exactly the same except in the configuration screens above you of course would be selecting the built in NIC.

    To reiterate, there are two network connections active on the laptop at the same time. Both can see the same shared folder on the laptop C: drive. The Wi-Fi on the laptop is connecting to the house WiFi so it can see all the other computers and access the internet, it is set as a normal local private network with a firewall. For the other network the laptop NIC connects with an ethernet wire to only the mill. It is listed in Windows configuration as an unidentified public network.. Windows will let you turn off the firewall on the public ethernet network while still leaving the firewall enabled on the private Wi-Fi network. The network to the mill is without a firewall and that is why it works.

    This configuration connects to the mill most of the time but you do have to deal with the DOS batch file prompt, selecting reconnect with a yes when you first turn the mill on. I find I have to wait 5 seconds or more before answering the prompt. One other minor issue is that after a period of time of inactivity, the network to the mill will time-out and you will have to reslect Menu >> Drive >> F: , fortunately it will wake and be immediately ready for you to use again with the Run, Prog or Verf command. Example: Run >> Menu >> scroll up and down >> select NC file by pressing Enter and you get a file listing right on the mill that is of the files that are in the shared folder on the laptop,


    Chees

    SF

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    Re: Networking Windows 10 to DOS 6.22 on the Milltronics Centurion 6 SBC

    Ho Nplolansky, It sounds like your machines has a 'super disk or a Zip drive attached, ( E

    The Milltronics has the RS-23 on the inside cable already pinned for the "extra grounds" and basically a 3 wire connection.

    DOS is a difficult connection to Win 10. It ( win 10) wants to control the "security" so much and DOS does not. So, Win 10 cries and screams like a little girl in a bug factory. That being said, the share folder should NEVER have access to the Inter net. It has to be limited to that folder and the machine. " Or Else" the big bad web WILL BITE YOU. HARD !

    The other option is to add ( depending on how big you cad cam file are) 1. add my floppy emulator with zip file, ( ~4.5 MB file) zip it up and copy to the USB ( floppy, formatted drive ( 0-99 floppy sectors available) 2. add Multi function drive, that uses a IDE drive that uses higher density ( 2 GB) drive media, ( compact flash, SD card, memory stick etc) and copy to disk and load as usual. ( the IT people will be thankful)
    3. update the control to my "Super SBC control update: this has a "hot swappable USB ( thumb drive) That works in DOS. (not a small feat) (ask around)

    contact me for more info on ANY of the options. or to Dis "cuss" how I can help.

    sportybob

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    Re: Networking Windows 10 to DOS 6.22 on the Milltronics Centurion 6 SBC

    Quote Originally Posted by sportybob View Post
    . . .

    the share folder should NEVER have access to the Inter net. It has to be limited to that folder and the machine.

    . . . sportybob
    The share folder does not have access to the internet and the internet does not have access to it. It is as secure as any standard folder on a Windows 10 machine.

    One would have the option of simply not connecting the windows laptop to the rest of your network and so the internet at large. And in fact there are a lot of machine shops where there is no WiFi signal accessible. In that case you would have to sneaker net your g-code to the laptop.



    I said it before in this thread and I will reiterate, sportybob's hardware solutions for old Milltronics machines are a wonderful option for adding a USB drive to your mill.


    Cheers
    SF

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