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    Getting custom 3d images made vs upgrading to aspire

    I'm never to CNC and I'm in the process of building my CNCRP PRO 4896 and I have a customer that wants this route for a friend of his. My question is which is better to do.

    Have someone build me a custom 3d model or upgrade to Aspire?

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    Re: Getting custom 3d images made vs upgrading to aspire

    Even if you upgrade to Aspire, there's no magic button to create a 3D model. It takes a lot of practice, and more importantly, artistic ability and skill to create good 3D models like that.
    Gerry

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    Re: Getting custom 3d images made vs upgrading to aspire

    Gerry, thank you for the reply yes I understand there isnt a magic button. I'm not really concerned about artistic ability. I have a Bachelor's degree in Art, it's been a while since I've sat down & painted. I dont set down & draw much just for the fun of it, but I do draw at least once weekly at work designing signs.

    My question is which is the better route having someone make the file or upgrading to Aspire and learn to do it myself

    Thank you

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    Re: Getting custom 3d images made vs upgrading to aspire

    I can't answer that. It depends on how valuable your time is, and if you don't mind paying the cost of the model.
    Gerry

    UCCNC 2017 Screenset
    http://www.thecncwoodworker.com/2017.html

    Mach3 2010 Screenset
    http://www.thecncwoodworker.com/2010.html

    JointCAM - CNC Dovetails & Box Joints
    http://www.g-forcecnc.com/jointcam.html

    (Note: The opinions expressed in this post are my own and are not necessarily those of CNCzone and its management)

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    Re: Getting custom 3d images made vs upgrading to aspire

    Do you know anyone that would create these for me? I'm thinking I'd leave the text & center smooth & flat so I could change those based on the department & badge number.

    If they would charge a hundred or so I'll just upgrade & learn to do it myself because I seriously doubt this will be the only one I'll need.

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    Re: Getting custom 3d images made vs upgrading to aspire

    This guy is well known in the Aspire community, and does a lot of custom work.

    https://carveddetails.com/

    I'd expect it to cost more than $100, but that's just a guess?

    But he does have some generic badges for sale for $25.
    https://carveddetails.com/product-ca...ymbols/badges/
    Gerry

    UCCNC 2017 Screenset
    http://www.thecncwoodworker.com/2017.html

    Mach3 2010 Screenset
    http://www.thecncwoodworker.com/2010.html

    JointCAM - CNC Dovetails & Box Joints
    http://www.g-forcecnc.com/jointcam.html

    (Note: The opinions expressed in this post are my own and are not necessarily those of CNCzone and its management)

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    Re: Getting custom 3d images made vs upgrading to aspire

    Michael is very reasonably priced & I'm hoping to do a lot more with him. He already has a lot of the elements made so he is only charging $25 for the badge. I sent him a very intricate design & he quoted $250 for it which I also dont think is bad but I need to get the ok from my customer.

    I'm going to order some bits to route the 3d stuff. Can I just use ball nose or do I really need tapered ball nose bits?

    What size bits do I need for jobs from 8"x10" up to 12"x18" or so. I have some 1/8" & 1/4" ball nose but no tapered

    Thank you
    Gary

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    Re: Getting custom 3d images made vs upgrading to aspire

    If the thickness is not too deep, then regular ballnose may work. It depends on how much detail you need. If you fine (small) details, then you need a small tool. Tapered ballnose can be a lot stronger than a ballnose of the same tip size.
    And becasue they are stronger, you can often skip the roughing passes and just do a single finish pass with a tapered ballnose.

    For really fine details, I like to use 1/16" ballnose, but it'll take twice as long to cut as an 1/8" would.
    Gerry

    UCCNC 2017 Screenset
    http://www.thecncwoodworker.com/2017.html

    Mach3 2010 Screenset
    http://www.thecncwoodworker.com/2010.html

    JointCAM - CNC Dovetails & Box Joints
    http://www.g-forcecnc.com/jointcam.html

    (Note: The opinions expressed in this post are my own and are not necessarily those of CNCzone and its management)

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    Re: Getting custom 3d images made vs upgrading to aspire

    Ok I've found these on eBay I know they are cheap but I've had a fair amount of luck with some of the cheap china bits.

    I've also found some that range in size from .25mm, .5mm, .75mm & 1mm with 1/8" shank.

    https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F222674408891

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    Re: Getting custom 3d images made vs upgrading to aspire

    Does anyone have advice on bits for 3d routing? I posted some on my post prior & I'd like some advice.

    Thank you

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    Re: Getting custom 3d images made vs upgrading to aspire

    These are very popular in the Vectric community, but are not cheap.
    BDP - Cutters

    Amana has a large selection of carving bits.
    https://www.amanatool.com/products/c...uter-bits.html

    Personally, I wouldn't buy that $10 set, but try them and see if they are any good.
    Gerry

    UCCNC 2017 Screenset
    http://www.thecncwoodworker.com/2017.html

    Mach3 2010 Screenset
    http://www.thecncwoodworker.com/2010.html

    JointCAM - CNC Dovetails & Box Joints
    http://www.g-forcecnc.com/jointcam.html

    (Note: The opinions expressed in this post are my own and are not necessarily those of CNCzone and its management)

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    Re: Getting custom 3d images made vs upgrading to aspire

    Ok thanks for the links. What size(s) should I get?

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    Re: Getting custom 3d images made vs upgrading to aspire

    Depends on how much detail you want. You want to use the largest size that gives you the detail you need, as that will cut the fastest. If you need really high detail, then you want the smallest bits. But of course, with really small bits, cut times go up rapidly.
    Gerry

    UCCNC 2017 Screenset
    http://www.thecncwoodworker.com/2017.html

    Mach3 2010 Screenset
    http://www.thecncwoodworker.com/2010.html

    JointCAM - CNC Dovetails & Box Joints
    http://www.g-forcecnc.com/jointcam.html

    (Note: The opinions expressed in this post are my own and are not necessarily those of CNCzone and its management)

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    Re: Getting custom 3d images made vs upgrading to aspire

    Yeah I guess I'd want the best compromise of speed & detail but I'm not sure if that's 1/32", 1/16" or something different. I'm sure overall size will make a difference to the detail needed.

    Thanks

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    Re: Getting custom 3d images made vs upgrading to aspire

    Either 1/16" or 1/8" is probably what you want.
    Gerry

    UCCNC 2017 Screenset
    http://www.thecncwoodworker.com/2017.html

    Mach3 2010 Screenset
    http://www.thecncwoodworker.com/2010.html

    JointCAM - CNC Dovetails & Box Joints
    http://www.g-forcecnc.com/jointcam.html

    (Note: The opinions expressed in this post are my own and are not necessarily those of CNCzone and its management)

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    Re: Getting custom 3d images made vs upgrading to aspire

    Ive purchased a couple stl files on eBay and one is a clock with a bird dog & shotgun, is it possible for someone with Aspire to lengthen the barrel? It's too short.

    Thank you

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