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    VFD 110V-110V parameters setting

    Hello guys,

    I have a Huanyang VFD 100v-110v and I need help for parameter settings.
    I need to set it to be controlled by USB CNC controller board and connect to spindle.

    The spindle is:
    GDZ-15, Diameter 65mm, H160mm, 400Hz, 24000 rpm, 800w, 6A, 150V.



    VFD MODEL: HY01D511B, 110V-110V, 1.5KW, 14A

    I tried these settings before:

    P0=0
    P1=1
    P2=1
    P3=400
    P4=400
    P5=400
    P8=150
    P70=0
    P72=400
    P73=0
    P141=150
    P142=6A
    P144=24000
    P142=6

    After putting these parameters, I don't know how to activate them because the VFD screen remain blinking (see picture)

    After these parameters, I got others which are a bit similar to the first ones but the VFD screen remain blinking an on the picture:

    PD000=0 for Parameter unlock ( 1 ) for Parameter Lock
    PD001=0 (1 For Remote Control)
    PD002=0 ( 1 For 0-10v Terminal Control or Remote Trim Pot Control )
    PD003=400
    PD004=400
    PD005=400
    PD007=20
    PD008=220 (120 If you have 120v VFD )
    PD009=15
    PD010=8
    PD011=120 ( 100 Minimum Setting with Quality VFD, 120 is Safe)
    PD13= 08 is for Factory reset, Only use this to set VFD to Factory Default Settings
    PD014 Acceleration=12 ( Adjust to suit)
    PD015 Deceleration=12 (Adjust to suit)
    ( PD15 is ignored IF PD26=1 Then the Spindle will Coast to a Stop)
    PD141=220 ( Motor Rated Voltage ) (120 for VFD Rated for 120v )
    PD142= ( Motor Max Amps)
    PD142=( 220vSet for your motor Amp Rating 2.2Kw Spindle 9 amp )
    PD142=( 220VSet for your motor Amp Rating 1.5Kw Spindle 7 amp )
    PD142=( 220v Set for your motor Amps Rating 800w Spindle 4 amps )
    PD142=( 120v Set for your motor Amp Rating 800w Spindle 7 amp )
    PD143=2 ( Motor Number of Poles)
    PD144=3000 (Max Motor RPM) =3,000= (24,000)
    PD70=0 ( This may need to be set to 1 if Control Voltage is 0-5v )
    PD72=400
    PD73=120 ( 100 Minimum Setting )

    So, I realy need help to set up this VFD.

    Thank you in advance
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    Re: VFD 110V-110V parameters setting

    Quote Originally Posted by Gautier View Post
    Hello guys,

    I have a Huanyang VFD 100v-110v and I need help for parameter settings.
    I need to set it to be controlled by USB CNC controller board and connect to spindle.

    The spindle is:
    GDZ-15, Diameter 65mm, H160mm, 400Hz, 24000 rpm, 800w, 6A, 150V.



    VFD MODEL: HY01D511B, 110V-110V, 1.5KW, 14A

    I tried these settings before:

    P0=0
    P1=1
    P2=1
    P3=400
    P4=400
    P5=400
    P8=150
    P70=0
    P72=400
    P73=0
    P141=150
    P142=6A
    P144=24000
    P142=6

    After putting these parameters, I don't know how to activate them because the VFD screen remain blinking (see picture)

    After these parameters, I got others which are a bit similar to the first ones but the VFD screen remain blinking an on the picture:

    PD000=0 for Parameter unlock ( 1 ) for Parameter Lock
    PD001=0 (1 For Remote Control)
    PD002=0 ( 1 For 0-10v Terminal Control or Remote Trim Pot Control )
    PD003=400
    PD004=400
    PD005=400
    PD007=20
    PD008=220 (120 If you have 120v VFD )
    PD009=15
    PD010=8
    PD011=120 ( 100 Minimum Setting with Quality VFD, 120 is Safe)
    PD13= 08 is for Factory reset, Only use this to set VFD to Factory Default Settings
    PD014 Acceleration=12 ( Adjust to suit)
    PD015 Deceleration=12 (Adjust to suit)
    ( PD15 is ignored IF PD26=1 Then the Spindle will Coast to a Stop)
    PD141=220 ( Motor Rated Voltage ) (120 for VFD Rated for 120v )
    PD142= ( Motor Max Amps)
    PD142=( 220vSet for your motor Amp Rating 2.2Kw Spindle 9 amp )
    PD142=( 220VSet for your motor Amp Rating 1.5Kw Spindle 7 amp )
    PD142=( 220v Set for your motor Amps Rating 800w Spindle 4 amps )
    PD142=( 120v Set for your motor Amp Rating 800w Spindle 7 amp )
    PD143=2 ( Motor Number of Poles)
    PD144=3000 (Max Motor RPM) =3,000= (24,000)
    PD70=0 ( This may need to be set to 1 if Control Voltage is 0-5v )
    PD72=400
    PD73=120 ( 100 Minimum Setting )

    So, I realy need help to set up this VFD.

    Thank you in advance
    What does your parameters start with you have 2 that are different are they PD or something else, you have to use the correct parameters for the VFD that you have, how do you have it wired
    Mactec54

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    My parameters start with Pd. For example Pd001.

    VFD MODEL: HY01D511B, 110V-110V, 1.5KW, 14A

    The spindle is:
    GDZ-15, Diameter 65mm, H160mm, 400Hz, 24000 rpm, 800w, 6A, 150V.

    Attached is the wiring diagram picture and picture of VFD's state (blinking screen) after putting the parameters. I verified several times and the wiring is fine.

    I followed some videos on youtube concerning Huanyang VFD and found that after setting parameters the user need to hit the "RUN" button and the screen stops blinking; but for me it doesn't stop blinking, it remains blinking even if I hit the RUN button.

    I realy need help to configure this VFD.Click image for larger version. 

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    Re: VFD 110V-110V parameters setting

    Pls email to us, we will help you to set up

    We have this VFD in stock we can simulate it

    https://www.automationtechnologiesin...e/cnc-spindle/

    https://www.automationtechnologiesin...ooled-spindle/

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    Re: VFD 110V-110V parameters setting

    Quote Originally Posted by Gautier View Post
    My parameters start with Pd. For example Pd001.

    VFD MODEL: HY01D511B, 110V-110V, 1.5KW, 14A

    The spindle is:
    GDZ-15, Diameter 65mm, H160mm, 400Hz, 24000 rpm, 800w, 6A, 150V.

    Attached is the wiring diagram picture and picture of VFD's state (blinking screen) after putting the parameters. I verified several times and the wiring is fine.

    I followed some videos on youtube concerning Huanyang VFD and found that after setting parameters the user need to hit the "RUN" button and the screen stops blinking; but for me it doesn't stop blinking, it remains blinking even if I hit the RUN button.

    I realy need help to configure this VFD.Click image for larger version. 

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    Using the internet can get you into trouble most show you incorrect settings, turn it off wait about 1min and turn it on again press the stop button/reset if this does not work for you, on some of these HY drives you can remove the Key Pad and then replace it if this does not fix the problem contact the seller as you have a faulty drive

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    Mactec54

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    Hello guys,

    I thank you for your help. Especially "Automationtechnic". Now I am able to run the spindle using the VFD's panel control. Now I need to run it using the USB CNC controller card (see picture). As Automationtechnic told me that they are not familiar to USB CNC controller board, I still need help in order to control the VFD through USB CNC controller:

    1. How to connect the VFD and USB CNC? and the position of jumpers on USB CNC board; or if the attached picture is correct?
    2. Which VFD parameters to change?
    3. Do I need to change the VFD's jumper from VR to VI position?
    4. Which settings to make inside the Planet USB CNC software in order to control the VFD?

    These are the parameters which are working now but using the VFD's panel (from automationtechinc):

    PD001 = 0
    PD002 = 0
    PD005 = 400
    PD004 = 400
    PD003 = 400
    PD141 = 110 or 220V ( check the spindle rate)
    PD142 = 11.0 or 5A
    PD144 = 2800
    PD008 =110
    PD013=1
    PD072=400

    Attached is the board
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    Thank you in advance
    Last edited by Gautier; 10-11-2018 at 01:33 PM.

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    Re: VFD 110V-110V parameters setting

    Good day I have purchased this "2.2KW Water Cooled Spindle Motor ER20 24000rpm 400Hz+2.2KW VFD Inverter Variable Frequency Driver 110V" and parameters Pd 003 Pd 004 Pd 005 Will not change from 50.. can someone help pls

    thanks

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    Re: VFD 110V-110V parameters setting

    Quote Originally Posted by ACERO1 View Post
    Good day I have purchased this "2.2KW Water Cooled Spindle Motor ER20 24000rpm 400Hz+2.2KW VFD Inverter Variable Frequency Driver 110V" and parameters Pd 003 Pd 004 Pd 005 Will not change from 50.. can someone help pls

    thanks
    Who would buy a 2.2Kw to run on 120v single phase supply ???

    Have you checked the Parameter Lock

    PD000=0 needs to be zero or this will lock the Parameter Settings
    Mactec54

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    Re: VFD 110V-110V parameters setting

    WTF is 110V 3-Phase?

    I am trying to wrap my head around how Huanyang labels their VFDs and motors. Other brands of VFD either accept a 115V/1PH input or don't, but always output 230V/3PH. What is different about Huanyang?

    Let's say I have this: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09CPRKB3S

    I would expect to be able to run it with this: https://www.cnc4pc.com/1-5kw-vfd-spindle-inverter.html or this: https://www.amazon.com/Variable-Freq.../dp/B0775QGLVJ

    But their labeling suggests otherwise. Again, WTF is 110V/3PH? And how is it different from 230V/3PH?

    TO MAKE THINGS EVEN WEIRDER...

    Someone asked this exact question on Amazon, and Huanyang replied "you need our voltage-up series products" and then posted a dead link. See it for yourself: https://www.amazon.com/ask/questions...k_ql_ql_al_hza

    Does Huanyang sell these things or not?

    TO MAKE THIS CLEARER THAN MUD...

    Here is a thread on Practical Machinist where they go over what this all means, and they get absolutely nowhere: https://www.practicalmachinist.com/v...estion-248756/

    The OP was confused about the labeling, and the thread predictably goes to "buy American", and then the OP learns that 110V is really just 220V and that he's going to run an extension cord. We did not learn if his 110V input will result in a VFD output of 220V, only that it also accepts 220V.

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    Re: VFD 110V-110V parameters setting

    Quote Originally Posted by XYZGnomon View Post
    WTF is 110V 3-Phase?

    I am trying to wrap my head around how Huanyang labels their VFDs and motors. Other brands of VFD either accept a 115V/1PH input or don't, but always output 230V/3PH. What is different about Huanyang?

    Let's say I have this: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09CPRKB3S

    I would expect to be able to run it with this: https://www.cnc4pc.com/1-5kw-vfd-spindle-inverter.html or this: https://www.amazon.com/Variable-Freq.../dp/B0775QGLVJ

    But their labeling suggests otherwise. Again, WTF is 110V/3PH? And how is it different from 230V/3PH?
    In the real world there is no such thing the Chinese manufacture such a thing, that is ok up to 1.5Kw spindles but the 2.2Kw is junk and nobody should buy one most don't know and fall for it because they only have 120v power supply, even the 1.5Kw will not get max performance using 120v NA Single Phase supply

    A standard VFD Drive if you where to use 120v Single Phase Input supply you get the same out 120v 3 Phase

    The VFD Drives that can take 120v ( which is very few ) have a step-up transformer inside the drive to go from 120v to 240v this is still very limited in performance there is just not enough current available in a 120v circuit for a VFD Drive to perform how it should
    Mactec54

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    Re: VFD 110V-110V parameters setting

    Quote Originally Posted by mactec54 View Post
    In the real world there is no such thing the Chinese manufacture such a thing, that is ok up to 1.5Kw spindles but the 2.2Kw is junk and nobody should buy one most don't know and fall for it because they only have 120v power supply, even the 1.5Kw will not get max performance using 120v NA Single Phase supply
    Huh?

    Quote Originally Posted by mactec54 View Post
    A standard VFD Drive if you where to use 120v Single Phase Input supply you get the same out 120v 3 Phase
    Okay so now 120V 3 Phase exists?

    Quote Originally Posted by mactec54 View Post
    The VFD Drives that can take 120v ( which is very few ) have a step-up transformer inside the drive to go from 120v to 240v this is still very limited in performance there is just not enough current available in a 120v circuit for a VFD Drive to perform how it should
    Now we're talking. I purchased just such a drive this week: https://www.electricmotorwholesale.com/9675-KBDF-27D/ and the only thing I don't like about it is that it only goes to 240Hz. I just assumed it would go higher, since every other brand does. I'm now looking at alternatives and the Huanyang seem to be everywhere and yet a black hole. I'd like for someone to explain what 110V/3Ph is, and how it is different from 220V/3PH.

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    Re: VFD 110V-110V parameters setting

    Quote Originally Posted by XYZGnomon View Post
    Huh?



    Okay so now 120V 3 Phase exists?



    Now we're talking. I purchased just such a drive this week: https://www.electricmotorwholesale.com/9675-KBDF-27D/ and the only thing I don't like about it is that it only goes to 240Hz. I just assumed it would go higher, since every other brand does. I'm now looking at alternatives and the Huanyang seem to be everywhere and yet a black hole. I'd like for someone to explain what 110V/3Ph is, and how it is different from 220V/3PH.
    No 120v 3Ph power does not exist

    You need double the amps so if you have a 240v NA Main Single Phase Supply and run a 3 Phase 8.5A to10A Spindle Motor this will need the 240v supply to the VFD Drive to be 25A to 30A for 120v supply to do the same job then you would need a main power supply, which is not going to happen for 120v NA supply
    Mactec54

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    Re: VFD 110V-110V parameters setting

    Quote Originally Posted by mactec54 View Post
    No 120v 3Ph power does not exist

    You need double the amps so if you have a 240v NA Main Single Phase Supply and run a 3 Phase 8.5A to10A Spindle Motor this will need the 240v supply to the VFD Drive to be 25A to 30A for 120v supply to do the same job then you would need a main power supply, which is not going to happen for 120v NA supply
    I'm sure you know what you're talking about, but you haven't communicated that very well. I literally know LESS now than when I originally commented.

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    Re: VFD 110V-110V parameters setting

    Quote Originally Posted by XYZGnomon View Post
    I'm sure you know what you're talking about, but you haven't communicated that very well. I literally know LESS now than when I originally commented.
    Not sure what happened there as there is some of what I posted is missing but does not make that much difference the main words that are missing is that what ever amps was needed for 240v supply the 120v supply would need double the amps to do the same job

    You most likely should not be doing anything electrical if you don't understand the basic's

    You have not said what you are trying to do ???

    This is as Basic as it gets, does not relate to anything you may be doing, because we don't know what you are trying to do

    120v / 1000W / 8.33 Amps
    240v / 1000W / 4.17 Amps
    Mactec54

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    Re: VFD 110V-110V parameters setting

    Quote Originally Posted by mactec54 View Post
    Not sure what happened there as there is some of what I posted is missing but does not make that much difference the main words that are missing is that what ever amps was needed for 240v supply the 120v supply would need double the amps to do the same job

    You most likely should not be doing anything electrical if you don't understand the basic's

    You have not said what you are trying to do ???

    This is as Basic as it gets, does not relate to anything you may be doing, because we don't know what you are trying to do

    120v / 1000W / 8.33 Amps
    240v / 1000W / 4.17 Amps
    Again, I'm not sure you realize how little you're actually communicating about my question. I want to know what the hell Huanyang is selling. WTF is 110V/3PH? Forget everything else about what we've talked about!

    WTF is 110V/3PH?

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    Re: VFD 110V-110V parameters setting

    What they are trying to get across is that if you have 1ph going to 3ph of the same voltage, then you must supply sqrt(3) times the 3ph current, on the 1ph input.

    So roughly 1.732Amps 1ph per every 1Amp 3ph.

    Additionally the voltage is a linear scale when the phase count does not change.

    1Amp@220v3ph = 2Amp@110V3ph = ~3.5Amp@110V1ph

    Does 110V 3ph exist? Not as a standard afaik, but any arbitrary voltage can be achieved. A 3ph motor rated for inverter duty operation at 110v would be a 110v 3ph system. These do exist, if not as standard items.

    All kinds of arbitrary voltages are in use for motors depending on various application limits, but typically 5-48VDC (3.5-40VAC at the motor) and 220-430VAC are going to cover most standard 3ph motors.

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    Re: VFD 110V-110V parameters setting

    Quote Originally Posted by XYZGnomon View Post
    Huh?

    Okay so now 120V 3 Phase exists?
    Actually 110V, 3 phase, 400 Hz does exist, it's an aircraft power systems standard, but I'm not sure if it is still in use in newer aircraft. Also interestingly enough, according to the data tag, the Delta 7.5kW servo spindle motor on my lathe is a 110V, 3 phase, but the drive is 230V, 3 phase input.

    But using 120V, 3 phase, with a 120V single phase input to try to run a router spindle seems a bit useless.
    Jim Dawson
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    Re: VFD 110V-110V parameters setting

    Quote Originally Posted by XYZGnomon View Post
    Again, I'm not sure you realize how little you're actually communicating about my question. I want to know what the hell Huanyang is selling. WTF is 110V/3PH? Forget everything else about what we've talked about!

    WTF is 110V/3PH?
    110v Ac / 3Ph it is a Chinese Gotcha ( money )

    Do some simple math the amp ratings on the Spindle motors don't match the Voltage being supplied

    It is what they made to make a sale to people in NA that have no understanding ( Gotcha )that 120v Ac single Phase power used for these 110v 3Ph high speed spindle motors have a dismal performance over 1.5Kw even 1.5Kw spindle motor is a push for a 110/120v supply

    What we are trying to tell you don't fall for it unless you have a need to run an 800W spindle as these perform ok on 120v NA Power Supply with the HY 110v / 110v 3Ph VFD Drive and matching Spindle
    Mactec54

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    Re: VFD 110V-110V parameters setting

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Dawson View Post
    Actually 110V, 3 phase, 400 Hz does exist, it's an aircraft power systems standard, but I'm not sure if it is still in use in newer aircraft. Also interestingly enough, according to the data tag, the Delta 7.5kW servo spindle motor on my lathe is a 110V, 3 phase, but the drive is 230V, 3 phase input.

    But using 120V, 3 phase, with a 120V single phase input to try to run a router spindle seems a bit useless.
    The military also use a lot of different voltages mostly DC

    I think you will find the aircraft where /are using 115VAC 400Hz 3 Ph most of there systems are 28v DC Aircraft electrical systems can not be compared to a, 2 Pole 24,000 110v Ac 400Hz spindle motor, I agree useless over the power supply current capability
    Mactec54

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    Re: VFD 110V-110V parameters setting

    Impractical is really the word. I've design 100kW 48VDC systems, useless just means your wiring is not sufficient.

    Impractical and not swappable to other installations is definitely true, best not to try and push standard home voltages outside of proscribed power levels even though it's totally feasible, because you make a weird unique situation that's only applicable to the one installation setup.

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