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  1. #1
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    how to face-cut & zero-program ( basics reloaded : a bit faster, a bit optimized )

    hello sometimes i try to speed up things

    everybody knows how to face-cut and input program zero

    please check this :
    ... manual mode : put face-cut tool above the material
    ... automatic mode : program select + play
    ... open the door : if face is not clean, push cycle-start again

    program will read tool position, cut a face, reposition for a next cut at a predefined width, and declare Z origin / that's all-inclusive, 3-in-1

    - requires less keystrokes
    - faster than common-methods
    - noex + ctr + system variables + M02
    - it uses G97; if you wish for G96, consider also M61, etc
    - it reads&uses tool nose radius, but without compensation codes
    - i don't use the "wear" field; if you wish to use it, then VTWO* is needed
    - positioning is done in feed, not in rapid, so to avoid shocks caused by fast servos
    - works on random material diameter and face position, because it reads the tool position
    - to cover a wide range of diameters&materials, declare some generic values ( eq 750rpm 0.15mm/rot ) : even if specs are not high, it is still faster to run this "generic" program then operating in MDI; for fast adjustments, use the potentiometers
    - tested on osp300 / kindly

    Code:
    
    
        G50 S2000
    
    
        NOEX   V1 = 900000      ( n - rpm, o / min )
        NOEX   V2 = 0.789       ( f - feed, mm / o )
        NOEX   V3 = 0.50        ( z step      )
        NOEX LINK = 1           ( turret post )
    
    
      ( * )
     
        T + LINK * 101(01) ( M66 ) G97 S + V1 M42 M03 M08 G00 X + VSIOX - VTOFX [ LINK ] Z + VSIOZ - VTOFZ [ LINK ] M63
        G04 F0.345         ( be sure that there is coolant flow over the cutting edge, before feeding begins )
    
        NOEX V4 = VSIOX
        NOEX V5 = VNSRX [ LINK ]
    
    
        G01 X - 2   * V5   F + V2  G95
        G91 Z + 0.3
        G90 X + V4         F2500   G94 M05 M09 M63
        G91 Z - 0.3 - V3   F100
    
    
        NOEX VSZOZ = VSZOZ + VSIOZ + V3
    
    
    M02
    Ladyhawke - My Delirium, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_bFO1SNRZg

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    Re: how to face-cut & zero-program ( basics reloaded : a bit faster, a bit optimized

    hi nodochau, pls test this, it's pretty simple :

    ... download attached file and remove the *.txt extension
    ... replace "k" with "K" : 1st letter must be capitalized
    ... be sure that LINK variable = face tool turret post
    ... load it into osp300 lathe + program select
    ... clamp the material
    ... manual mode
    ... put face tool a bit above the material
    ... on Z, put it where you wish to take the 1st cut
    ... auto mode + cycle start

    tool will start moving down, towards X-, cut the face, then back up, and will put zero

    if face is not clean, push cycle start again / kindly
    Last edited by deadlykitten; 10-22-2018 at 09:29 AM.
    Ladyhawke - My Delirium, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_bFO1SNRZg

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    Re: how to face-cut & zero-program ( basics reloaded : a bit faster, a bit optimized

    It is great and I will try it today.
    A question is why do we have this "X + VSIOX - VTOFX [ LINK ]" IF I just put X[VSIOX]? WHAY WE SUBTRACT VTOFX??

    Thanks

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    Re: how to face-cut & zero-program ( basics reloaded : a bit faster, a bit optimized

    well, try it as it is

    after that modify it how you like, and see what happens ... of course, use the feed potentiometer near 0%, thus to be sure that you know were the machine will go

    A question is why do we have this "X + VSIOX - VTOFX [ LINK ]" IF I just put X[VSIOX]? WHAY WE SUBTRACT VTOFX??
    try to discover the answer by running trials yourself

    if you won't tell me why i put it there, i will tell you in a few days

    actually, that code is the key, this is why i opened this thread / kindly
    Ladyhawke - My Delirium, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_bFO1SNRZg

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    Re: how to face-cut & zero-program ( basics reloaded : a bit faster, a bit optimized

    hello all, i have updated this code

    again, it is created for face cutting + auto Z0 declaration; there is nothing faster

    all you have to do, is clamp the bar inside the chuck, at random Z position, then manually bring the face tool above the material, and run the program

    parameters inside the program may be set only once, with generic values



    i added a parameter ( V4 ), so to choose if you wish to declare Z0 or not

    most of the math is buffered in a single-shot, by using noex+$, so to keep the calculations altogether & away from the executional blocks, so to target minimal downtime during program run

    kindly

    Code:
    
    
        G50 S2000
    
    
        NOEX V1 = 2000        ( n )
    $        V2 = 0.15        ( f )
    $        V3 = 0.50        ( z step      )
    $        V4 = 1           ( 1 : declare Z origin , 0 : don't )
    $      LINK = 01          ( turret post )
    $
    $ ( * )
    $
    $   LPX = VSIOX - VTOFX [ LINK ]
    $   LPZ = VSIOZ - VTOFZ [ LINK ]
    
    
        T + LINK * 101 G97 S + V1 M42 M03 M08 G00 X + LPX Z + LPZ M63
    
    
        G01 X - 2 * VNSRX [ LINK ] F + V2 G95
            Z + LPZ + 0.3
            X + LPX                F2500  G94 M05 M09 M63
            Z + LPZ - V3           F100
    
    
        IF [ V4 EQ 0 ] NJUMP
             NOEX VSZOZ = VSZOZ + VSIOZ + V3
        NJUMP NOEX
    
    
    M02
    Ladyhawke - My Delirium, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_bFO1SNRZg

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